[html5] r2930 - [act] (0) Discuss overlapping paragraphs. (bug 6507)

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Author: ianh
Date: 2009-03-30 20:38:46 -0700 (Mon, 30 Mar 2009)
New Revision: 2930

Modified:
   index
   source
Log:
[act] (0) Discuss overlapping paragraphs. (bug 6507)

Modified: index
===================================================================
--- index	2009-03-31 01:48:06 UTC (rev 2929)
+++ index	2009-03-31 03:38:46 UTC (rev 2930)
@@ -8556,14 +8556,31 @@
   since those elements, with their hybrid content models, can straddle
   paragraph boundaries.</p>
 
+  <p class=note>Generally, having elements straddle paragraph
+  boundaries is best avoided. Maintaining such markup can be
+  difficult.</p>
+
+  <div class=impl>
+
   <p>Let <var title="">view</var> be a view of the DOM that replaces
   all <code><a href=#the-a-element>a</a></code>, <code><a href=#the-ins-element>ins</a></code> and <code><a href=#the-del-element>del</a></code> elements
-  in the document with their contents. Then, in <var title="">view</var>, for each run of <a href=#phrasing-content-0>phrasing content</a>
-  uninterrupted by other types of content, in an element that accepts
-  content other than <a href=#phrasing-content-0>phrasing content</a>, let <var title="">first</var> be the first node of the run, and let <var title="">last</var> be the last node of the run. For each run, a
-  paragraph exists in the original DOM from immediately before <var title="">first</var> to immediately after <var title="">last</var>. (Paragraphs can thus span across
+  in the document with their contents. Then, in <var title="">view</var>, for each run of sibling <a href=#phrasing-content-0>phrasing
+  content</a> nodes uninterrupted by other types of content, in an
+  element that accepts content other than <a href=#phrasing-content-0>phrasing
+  content</a>, let <var title="">first</var> be the first node of
+  the run, and let <var title="">last</var> be the last node of the
+  run. For each such run that consists of at least one node that is
+  neither <a href=#embedded-content-2>embedded content</a> nor <a href=#inter-element-whitespace>inter-element
+  whitespace</a>, a paragraph exists in the original DOM from
+  immediately before <var title="">first</var> to immediately after
+  <var title="">last</var>. (Paragraphs can thus span across
   <code><a href=#the-a-element>a</a></code>, <code><a href=#the-ins-element>ins</a></code> and <code><a href=#the-del-element>del</a></code> elements.)</p>
 
+  <p>Conformance checkers may warn authors of cases where they have
+  paragraphs that overlap each other.</p>
+
+  </div>
+
   <p>A <a href=#paragraph>paragraph</a> is also formed explicitly by
   <code><a href=#the-p-element>p</a></code> elements.</p>
 
@@ -8577,7 +8594,7 @@
    <p>In the following example, there are two paragraphs in a
    section. There is also a header, which contains phrasing content
    that is not a paragraph. Note how the comments and
-   <span>intra-element whitespace</span> do not form paragraphs.</p>
+   <a href=#inter-element-whitespace>inter-element whitespace</a> do not form paragraphs.</p>
 
    <pre><section>
   <h1>Example of paragraphs</h1>
@@ -8632,12 +8649,59 @@
 
   </div>
 
-  <p class=note>Generally, having elements straddle paragraph
-  boundaries is best avoided. Maintaining such markup can be
-  difficult.</p>
+  <div class=example>
 
+   <!-- I don't know if there's a better way to deal with this, but if
+   there is, let me know... -->
 
+   <p>It is possible for paragraphs to overlap when using certain
+   elements that define fallback content. For example, in the
+   following section:</p>
 
+   <pre><section>
+ <h1>My Cats</h1>
+ You can play with my cat simulator.
+ <object data="cats.sim">
+  To see the cat simulator, use one of the following links:
+  <ul>
+   <li><a href="cats.sim">Download simulator file</a>
+   <li><a href="http://sims.example.com/watch?v=LYds5xY4INU">Use online simulator</a>
+  </ul>
+  Alternatively, upgrade to the Mellblom Browser.
+ </object>
+ I'm quite proud of it.
+</section></pre>
+
+   <p>There are five paragraphs:</p>
+
+   <ol class=brief><li>The paragraph that says "You can play with my cat
+    simulator. <i title="">object</i> I'm quite proud of it.", where
+    <i title="">object</i> is the <code><a href=#the-object-element>object</a></code> element.</li>
+
+    <li>The paragraph that says "To see the cat simulator, use one of
+    the following links:".</li>
+
+    <li>The paragraph that says "Download simulator file".</li>
+
+    <li>The paragraph that says "Use online simulator".</li>
+
+    <li>The paragraph that says "Alternatively, upgrade to the Mellblom Browser.".</li>
+
+   </ol><p>The first paragraph is overlapped by the other four. A user
+   agent that supports the "cats.sim" resource will only show the
+   first one, but a user agent that shows the fallback will
+   confusingly show the the first sentence of the first paragraph as
+   if it was in the same paragraph as the second one, and will show
+   the last paragraph as if it was at the start of the second sentence
+   of the the first paragraph.</p>
+
+   <p>To avoid this confusion, explicit <code><a href=#the-p-element>p</a></code> elements can be
+   used.</p>
+
+  </div>
+
+
+
   <h3 id=apis-in-html-documents><span class=secno>3.6 </span>APIs in HTML documents</h3>
 
   <p>For <a href=#html-documents>HTML documents</a>, and for <a href=#html-elements>HTML

Modified: source
===================================================================
--- source	2009-03-31 01:48:06 UTC (rev 2929)
+++ source	2009-03-31 03:38:46 UTC (rev 2930)
@@ -8885,19 +8885,32 @@
   since those elements, with their hybrid content models, can straddle
   paragraph boundaries.</p>
 
+  <p class="note">Generally, having elements straddle paragraph
+  boundaries is best avoided. Maintaining such markup can be
+  difficult.</p>
+
+  <div class="impl">
+
   <p>Let <var title="">view</var> be a view of the DOM that replaces
   all <code>a</code>, <code>ins</code> and <code>del</code> elements
   in the document with their contents. Then, in <var
-  title="">view</var>, for each run of <span>phrasing content</span>
-  uninterrupted by other types of content, in an element that accepts
-  content other than <span>phrasing content</span>, let <var
-  title="">first</var> be the first node of the run, and let <var
-  title="">last</var> be the last node of the run. For each run, a
-  paragraph exists in the original DOM from immediately before <var
-  title="">first</var> to immediately after <var
-  title="">last</var>. (Paragraphs can thus span across
+  title="">view</var>, for each run of sibling <span>phrasing
+  content</span> nodes uninterrupted by other types of content, in an
+  element that accepts content other than <span>phrasing
+  content</span>, let <var title="">first</var> be the first node of
+  the run, and let <var title="">last</var> be the last node of the
+  run. For each such run that consists of at least one node that is
+  neither <span>embedded content</span> nor <span>inter-element
+  whitespace</span>, a paragraph exists in the original DOM from
+  immediately before <var title="">first</var> to immediately after
+  <var title="">last</var>. (Paragraphs can thus span across
   <code>a</code>, <code>ins</code> and <code>del</code> elements.)</p>
 
+  <p>Conformance checkers may warn authors of cases where they have
+  paragraphs that overlap each other.</p>
+
+  </div>
+
   <p>A <span>paragraph</span> is also formed explicitly by
   <code>p</code> elements.</p>
 
@@ -8911,7 +8924,7 @@
    <p>In the following example, there are two paragraphs in a
    section. There is also a header, which contains phrasing content
    that is not a paragraph. Note how the comments and
-   <span>intra-element whitespace</span> do not form paragraphs.</p>
+   <span>inter-element whitespace</span> do not form paragraphs.</p>
 
    <pre><section>
   <h1>Example of paragraphs</h1>
@@ -8966,12 +8979,63 @@
 
   </div>
 
-  <p class="note">Generally, having elements straddle paragraph
-  boundaries is best avoided. Maintaining such markup can be
-  difficult.</p>
+  <div class="example">
 
+   <!-- I don't know if there's a better way to deal with this, but if
+   there is, let me know... -->
 
+   <p>It is possible for paragraphs to overlap when using certain
+   elements that define fallback content. For example, in the
+   following section:</p>
 
+   <pre><section>
+ <h1>My Cats</h1>
+ You can play with my cat simulator.
+ <object data="cats.sim">
+  To see the cat simulator, use one of the following links:
+  <ul>
+   <li><a href="cats.sim">Download simulator file</a>
+   <li><a href="http://sims.example.com/watch?v=LYds5xY4INU">Use online simulator</a>
+  </ul>
+  Alternatively, upgrade to the Mellblom Browser.
+ </object>
+ I'm quite proud of it.
+</section></pre>
+
+   <p>There are five paragraphs:</p>
+
+   <ol class="brief">
+
+    <li>The paragraph that says "You can play with my cat
+    simulator. <i title="">object</i> I'm quite proud of it.", where
+    <i title="">object</i> is the <code>object</code> element.</li>
+
+    <li>The paragraph that says "To see the cat simulator, use one of
+    the following links:".</li>
+
+    <li>The paragraph that says "Download simulator file".</li>
+
+    <li>The paragraph that says "Use online simulator".</li>
+
+    <li>The paragraph that says "Alternatively, upgrade to the Mellblom Browser.".</li>
+
+   </ol>
+
+   <p>The first paragraph is overlapped by the other four. A user
+   agent that supports the "cats.sim" resource will only show the
+   first one, but a user agent that shows the fallback will
+   confusingly show the the first sentence of the first paragraph as
+   if it was in the same paragraph as the second one, and will show
+   the last paragraph as if it was at the start of the second sentence
+   of the the first paragraph.</p>
+
+   <p>To avoid this confusion, explicit <code>p</code> elements can be
+   used.</p>
+
+  </div>
+
+
+
   <h3>APIs in HTML documents</h3>
 
   <p>For <span>HTML documents</span>, and for <span>HTML