<div>Hey guys,</div><div><br></div><div>Dismiss me if I sound like an amatuer but I wanted to make a comment and follow it with questions (in relation to this topic of course). </div><div><br></div><div>Comment:</div><div>
<br></div><div>I have always interpreted <head> to envelop information that the browser does not present to the user but interprets for the sake of the user (styles, scripts, meta, etc.). I have always interpreted <body> to envelop the information that the browser presents directly to the user.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If that is a correct interpretation, I don't think it makes sense to place navigational links in <head>. Reading this discussion has me wondering if the <head> and <body> tags themselves are not semantically proper. Several of my peers and I just discussed wether or not both <head> and <body> are slowly becoming the wrong terms to use. No doubt our discussions about websites are becoming more and more more about "application" and less and less about "document". I couldn't help but wonder if <head> and <body> are slowly being deprecated just by the natural progression of the technology.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Questions (in comment form):</div><div><br></div><div>Is there any drawbacks or major reasons why <head> could not take on a more meaningful name like <meta> (Granted that element is already in play but I wonder if it makes greater sense to have <meta></meta> defined as a "container" for all the information the browser needs to interpret for the user. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Further, what stipulations or arguments are present for or against <body> becoming <content></content>. At that point, <nav> being placed in the content are makes sense (as well as <header>, <aside>, <footer>, etc).</div>
<div><br></div><div>A dev team peer had a bit of a different take. He suggested that perhaps any info that is not direct html content could exist the same way as <!DOCTYPE> and lives "outside" the DOM, while <html> could take the place of <body>. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I do not claim to be an expert by any means and I am most certain that more knowledgable people exist on this list. I simply wanted to present the observation and questions for the sake of learning. Feel free to riddle those observations with bullet holes. I'll learn either way. </div>
<div><br></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Jacob Kristensen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:admin@blueboden.com">admin@blueboden.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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So you're arguing that <head> should contain only <script>s and <style>s?<br>
Information in <body> is highly context sensitive, but information in<br>
<head> may be rendered before the <body>, after or injected into it. I<br>
find<br>
<head><br>
<link rel="related" type="image/jpeg" href=./complementary-image><br>
</head><br></div>
more logical....<br>
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Head has other uses, and could have other uses in the future. But its just overkill to use for navigation links.<br>
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Even links to related pages doesn't make sense to include in the head, as this would indicate that its related to the document or page as a whole, rather then the specific section otherwise indicated by using the relewant elements.<br>
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In the case where the designers has chosen to make use of it, they would still have to include a normal navigation somewhere in the body, which would just double their work.<br>
Besides. You can't really control where the browser puts the information taken from the head. Say, if you have put some navigation links in the head section, you would likely still want to control where it should be placed visually on a page.<br>
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So i really don't think its the best way to create links to related stuff. It may have its limited use in static documents, but using nav is likely better, if for nothing else, to at least maintain some consistency as of how things are done.<div class="im">
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