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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>I'll go ahead and answer my own concern about <small> being phrasing content. I looked at the spec in regards to paragraphs, and a <small> element between paragraphs would be treated as an implicit paragraph. So no concern there, it seems.<div><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 07:55:12 -0500<br>Subject: Re: [html5] Element for advisory, warning, or contingency note<br>From: yrocsand@gmail.com<br>To: ian@hixie.ch<br>CC: gbakerled@outlook.com; help@lists.whatwg.org<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Ian Hickson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ian@hixie.ch" target="_blank">ian@hixie.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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> In the spec, such notes are marked up as <p class="note"> or <div<br>
> class="note">. Is this considered the correct way, or is there a more<br>
> specific element that could be used.<br>
<br>
I've been planning on moving these (and examples) to <aside>, though that<br>
requires also changing to using a different heading structure (since<br>
<aside> is a sectioning element and thus resets the outline algorithm to<br>
the top-level heading, if I recall correcty).<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, that was one of my concerns. Another subscriber (responding privately) suggested <small>, which I also though could be a good fit semantically, and it avoids the "sectioning issue." On the other hand, small is classified a phrasing content, so it would have to be nested in a <p> if I understand correctly. Or can it be used in the flow with other <p>'s (assuming its display is changed to block), i.e., </div>
<div><br></div><div><p></p></div><div><p></p></div><div><small></small></div><div><p></p></div><div>...</div><div><br></div><div><small> is also styled as smaller font in by browsers' default style sheets so that's something that most (?) would want to override.</div>
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> Some candidates I thought might be possible are <strong>, <em>, <i>,<br>
> <b>, and <aside>:<br>
><br>
> <aside> I find it hard to say if advisory notes are tangentially related<br>
> to surrounding content -- I would tend to think not. Also, <aside> is a<br>
> sectioning element, and I don't think an advisory note is a different<br>
> section.<br>
<br>
If it's really just an inline paragraph that you happen to want to have<br>
special styling for, as opposed to a side note, then a class is probably<br>
the right way to go. (One way to look at it is: if you dropped the classes<br>
and CSS, would the document still make sense? Or does it only make sense<br>
if it is properly offset in some stylistic way?)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>"happen to want to have special styling for." But surely there'd always be some *reason* for the special styling? If it's "utilitarian" then <b> is appropriate according to the spec, no? Or can you provide a specific example of what you mean here? Perhaps referring to the spec, could you identify a note that you would mark up as an aside vs. a note that you would mark up with .note?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Gordon</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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