<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>Jens,</div><div><br></div>I’ve always found sic useful when reading.<div><br></div><div>considering parallel texts or multilingual texts such as War and Peace or The Name of the Rose</div><div>I would of thought required the publisher's use of lang.</div><div><br></div><div>similarly from an email of today: The area is called Smichov (=”place where people laugh”)</div><div>easily understood by the recipient, but perhaps not a machine?</div><div><br></div><div>i.e. where proper name is not translated, as is normal indicator is helpful.</div><div>Smith, </div><div><br></div><div>a photographer of dance refused to provide alt content, and I feel he was right.</div><div>his site showed flowing sequences, and the alt content would need to be a creative act.</div><div>one that is currently rare to non-existent.</div><div><br></div><div>so no easy answers, but on 2 we disagree at least in matters of creativity</div><div><br></div><div>as perhaps an extreme case freedom fries has a particular meaning,</div><div>but an annotation helps maintain that idiom over time, which may otherwise be lost.</div><div><br></div><div>~:"</div><div><br></div><div>
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<br><div><div>On 11 Aug 2014, at 18:09, Jens O. Meiert <<a href="mailto:jens@meiert.com">jens@meiert.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>I like to break into an old topic for which I believe the wrong ideas<br>float around, but against which I’m not yet ready to push on other<br>channels.<br><br>Hence I want to fish for arguments here: How useful are language<br>annotations via @lang?<br><br>In particular:<br><br>1) Do user agents, including assistive technology, use this<br>information in a way that is *actually* relevant and meaningful to the<br>user?<br><br>2) Isn’t, or shouldn’t, language determination primarily be made a<br>user agent, and not a developer responsibility?<br><br>3) Does it matter at all?<br><br>I’m presenting this here (and perhaps on one or two more lists) to<br>fish for arguments I may be missing. I’ve set my mind on this a while<br>back [1]—and would answer 1) not usefully implemented, 2) tool<br>responsibility, 3) probably not—but wonder if there is something that<br>strongly disputes my view.<br><br>Otherwise we can maybe clear up a mythical argument and requirement<br>that developers need to mark up languages.<br><br>Cheers,<br> Jens.<br><br><br>[1] <a href="https://plus.google.com/+JensOMeiert/posts/PfasbPRMuX8">https://plus.google.com/+JensOMeiert/posts/PfasbPRMuX8</a><br><br>--<br>Jens O. Meiert<br><a href="http://meiert.com/en/">http://meiert.com/en/</a><br><br>⚐ http://coderesponsibly.org/<br>_______________________________________________<br>Help mailing list<br>Help@lists.whatwg.org<br>http://lists.whatwg.org/listinfo.cgi/help-whatwg.org<br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>