<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 12:57 PM, cat </span><span dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><<a href="mailto:catsoul@thinkplan.org" target="_blank">catsoul@thinkplan.org</a>></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"> wrote:</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
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On Aug 28, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Cory Sand <<a href="mailto:yrocsand@gmail.com" target="_blank">yrocsand@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>but if one would not write a thing down on paper in list form, is that the boundary of what an <li> ought to be used for?<br></blockquote><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">
Can you give an example of what you're thinking of here?</div></blockquote></div><br><div>certainly. I personally would not write a form onto paper as though it were a list. I am grateful that putting a form into a list greatly assists me in the presentation aspects of that form, which is no trifling matter.</div>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div>Yet, there are aspects OF a form which I can see as bending to what a list is, almost in the same sense that, in programming, pretty much everything could be viewed as an array..your first name is an array of the letters c, o, r and y.</div>
</div></blockquote><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Not being a webdev expert myself (and so take my opinion accordingly), based on observation it does indeed appear to me that to the extent that list elements are used to mark up forms in contemporary HTML, it is merely for stylistic and/or programmatic reasons, and not because forms are somehow "inherently" a kind of list. As you and others have pointed out, just about anything (including a word or a sentence) could be viewed as a list (list of letters, list of words, etc.), but I don't think that's in the spirit of the (admittedly somewhat vague) definitions of lists in the specs.<br>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div>Bare Knuckle reality: the current state of css and html leaves us with greatly improved, still yet lacking, tools for presentation. Lots of accepted/respected techniques are often described as hacks, tho they do work reliably.</div>
</div></blockquote><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Whether it's possible to style a form in an equivalent manner without resorting to list elements would require commentary from someone with much greater expertise than me. </div>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div>Enough spouting from me..thank you for your answers.</div></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
My pleasure.</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>cat</div></font></div></blockquote></div>