<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi everybody. I wanted to ask ... does anyone have a decent "recipe" or experience of successfully running the legacy w3c validator (v1.1, 1.2, or 1.3 - it doesn't matter which) on the front end, with a <a href="http://validator.nu">validator.nu</a> on the back end, on port 8888 in order to get the "external and experimental" HTML5 conformance checking?<br>
<br></div>We have both of the above (legacy and <a href="http://validator.nu">validator.nu</a> on port 8888) running on the same machine, of course with the necessary changes made to /etc/w3c/validator.conf, but for some reason can't get them to talk to each other because of a persistent "504 gateway timeout".<br>
<br></div>Michael once said to me to get rid of the legacy w3c validator altogether (considering the <a href="http://validator.nu">validator.nu</a> does a better job validating any version of HTML), but we're in a corporate "situation" here wherein I'm told they will not accept any validator unless it has a "w3c" stamped on it's forehead ... which <a href="http://validator.nu">validator.nu</a> does not have. <br>
<br>This puts me in a difficult position - as I have built our very own <a href="http://validator.nu">validator.nu</a> (thanks for all the help btw!), but cannot get it to work with the legacy front end as I've said.<br>
<br></div>Is there any obvious solution that springs to anyone's mind? If not, does anyone have any stories to tell regarding an appropriate distro, networking issue or install context they came across? <br><br></div>
<div>The server at <a href="http://validator.w3.org">http://validator.w3.org</a> seems to have everything we need - I can only assume that's running <a href="http://validator.nu">validator.nu</a> on the back end as well. Does anyone know what that's running, or any details about how it's set up?<br>
</div><div><br></div>Thanks for your comments,<br><br>Andrei<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 April 2012 17:57, Rancid Iodine <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rancid.iodine@gmail.com" target="_blank">rancid.iodine@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Mike, <br><br>Following your advice to build the service using "python build/build.py --local run", I was pleased to find this does indeed initialise a service on the default port 8888.<br>
<br>It's possible to telnet to this service on that port (or indeed whatever other port xxx I make the servlet run on using "python build/build --port=xxx --local run "), but the markup validator "front end" seems to have a problem talking to the servlet.<br>
<br>The problem is seen to be a "504 gateway timeout" according to the markup validator, and shown thus:<br><br><span>External Checker not available</span>
<p>
Checking the Document Type of this document requires the help of an external tool which was either not enabled
in this validator, or is currently unavailable. Check in the validator's system configuration
that HTML5 Validator is enabled and functional.
</p>
<p>
The error encountered was:
<code>504 Gateway Time-out</code><br></p><p>The actual servlet process looks like this:</p>[root@vp-w3c-validator12 config]# ps -ef | grep 4244<br>root 4244 4235 1 17:15 pts/1 00:00:09 java -XX:-DontCompileHugeMethods -Xms131072k -Xmx131072k -XX:ThreadStackSize=2048 -classpath ./dependencies/commons-codec-1.4/commons-codec-1.4.jar:./dependencies/commons-httpclient-3.1/commons-httpclient-3.1.jar:./dependencies/commons-logging-1.1.1/commons-logging-1.1.1.jar:./dependencies/commons-logging-1.1.1/commons-logging-adapters-1.1.1.jar:./dependencies/commons-logging-1.1.1/commons-logging-api-1.1.1.jar:./dependencies/icu4j-charsets-4_4_2.jar:./dependencies/icu4j-4_4_2.jar:./dependencies/iri-0.5/lib/iri.jar:./dependencies/jetty-6.1.26/lib/servlet-api-2.5-20081211.jar:./dependencies/jetty-6.1.26/lib/jetty-6.1.26.jar:./dependencies/jetty-6.1.26/lib/jetty-util-6.1.26.jar:./dependencies/jetty-6.1.26/lib/ext/jetty-ajp-6.1.26.jar:./dependencies/apache-log4j-1.2.15/log4j-1.2.15.jar:./dependencies/rhino1_7R1/js.jar:./dependencies/xerces-2_9_1/xercesImpl.jar:./dependencies/xerces-2_9_1/xml-apis.jar:./dependencies/slf4j-1.5.2/slf4j-log4j12-1.5.2.jar:./dependencies/commons-fileupload-1.2.1/lib/commons-fileupload-1.2.1.jar:./dependencies/isorelax.jar:./dependencies/mozilla/intl/chardet/java/dist/lib/chardet.jar:./dependencies/saxon9.jar:./jars/non-schema.jar:./jars/io-xml-util.jar:./jars/htmlparser.jar:./jars/hs-aelfred2.jar:./jars/html5-datatypes.jar:./jars/validator.jar:jing-trang/build/jing.jar -Dnu.validator.servlet.log4j-properties=validator/log4j.properties -Dnu.validator.servlet.version=3 -Dnu.validator.servlet.service-name=Validator.nu -Dorg.whattf.datatype.lang-registry=file:local-entities/<a href="http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry" target="_blank">www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry</a> -Dorg.whattf.datatype.charset-registry=file:local-entities/<a href="http://www.iana.org/assignments/character-sets" target="_blank">www.iana.org/assignments/character-sets</a> -Dorg.whattf.datatype.warn=true -Dnu.validator.servlet.about-page=<a href="http://about.validator.nu/" target="_blank">http://about.validator.nu/</a> -Dnu.validator.servlet.style-sheet=style.css -Dnu.validator.servlet.icon=icon.png -Dnu.validator.servlet.script=script.js -Dnu.validator.spec.microsyntax-descriptions=file:local-entities/<a href="http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/MicrosyntaxDescriptions" target="_blank">wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/MicrosyntaxDescriptions</a> -Dnu.validator.spec.alt-advice=file:local-entities/<a href="http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Validator.nu_alt_advice" target="_blank">wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Validator.nu_alt_advice</a> -Dnu.validator.spec.html5-load=file:validator/spec/html5.html -Dnu.validator.spec.html5-link=<a href="http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/" target="_blank">http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/</a> -Dnu.validator.servlet.max-file-size=7340032 -Dnu.validator.servlet.connection-timeout=5000 -Dnu.validator.servlet.socket-timeout=5000 -Dnu.validator.servlet.use-local-copies=1 -Dnu.validator.servlet.w3cbranding=0 -Dorg.mortbay.http.HttpRequest.maxFormContentSize=7340032 -Dnu.validator.servlet.host.generic= -Dnu.validator.servlet.host.html5= -Dnu.validator.servlet.host.parsetree= -Dnu.validator.servlet.path.generic=/ -Dnu.validator.servlet.path.html5=/html5/ -Dnu.validator.servlet.path.parsetree=/parsetree/ -Dnu.validator.servlet.path.about=./validator/site/ nu.validator.servlet.Main 8888<br>
<br>The relevant entries in the validator.conf are:<br><br><External><br>HTML5 = <a href="http://localhost:8888/html5/" target="_blank">http://localhost:8888/html5/</a><br>CompoundXML = <a href="http://localhost:8888/" target="_blank">http://localhost:8888/</a><br>
</External><br><br>I'm not quite sure what's going wrong here. Does anyone have any experience of this?<br><br>Thanks for your comments,<br><br>Andrei<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 March 2012 17:17, Michael[tm] Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mike@w3.org" target="_blank">mike@w3.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Please try "python build/build.py --local run"<br>
<br>
--Mike<br>
<br>
Rancid Iodine <<a href="mailto:rancid.iodine@gmail.com" target="_blank">rancid.iodine@gmail.com</a>>, 2012-03-29 17:11 +0100:<br>
<div><div><br>
> I ran<br>
><br>
> python build/build.py --local all<br>
><br>
> but still end up getting the timeouts after "BUILD SUCCESSFUL".<br>
><br>
> The 1st time is here:<br>
><br>
> "java" -classpath<br>
> ./dependencies/commons-codec-1.4/commons-codec-1.4.jar:./dependencies/commons-httpclient-3.1/commons-httpclient-3.1.jar:./dependencies/commons-logging-1.1.1/commons-logging-1.1.1.jar:./dependencies/commons-logging-1.1.1/commons-logging-adapters-1.1.1.jar:./dependencies/commons-logging-1.1.1/commons-logging-api-1.1.1.jar:./dependencies/icu4j-charsets-4_4_2.jar:./dependencies/icu4j-4_4_2.jar:./dependencies/iri-0.5/lib/iri.jar:./dependencies/jetty-6.1.26/lib/servlet-api-2.5-20081211.jar:./dependencies/jetty-6.1.26/lib/jetty-6.1.26.jar:./dependencies/jetty-6.1.26/lib/jetty-util-6.1.26.jar:./dependencies/jetty-6.1.26/lib/ext/jetty-ajp-6.1.26.jar:./dependencies/apache-log4j-1.2.15/log4j-1.2.15.jar:./dependencies/rhino1_7R1/js.jar:./dependencies/xerces-2_9_1/xercesImpl.jar:./dependencies/xerces-2_9_1/xml-apis.jar:./dependencies/slf4j-1.5.2/slf4j-log4j12-1.5.2.jar:./dependencies/commons-fileupload-1.2.1/lib/commons-fileupload-1.2.1.jar:./dependencies/isorelax.jar:./dependencies/mozilla/intl/chardet/java/dist/lib/chardet.jar:./dependencies/saxon9.jar:./dependencies/jsontools-core-1.5.jar:./dependencies/antlr.jar:./dependencies/xom-1.1.jar:./dependencies/junit-4.4.jar:./dependencies/apache-ant-1.7.0/lib/ant.jar:./dependencies/apache-ant-1.7.0/lib/ant-launcher.jar:./jars/non-schema.jar:./jars/io-xml-util.jar:./jars/htmlparser.jar:./jars/hs-aelfred2.jar:./jars/html5-datatypes.jar:./jars/test-harness.jar:jing-trang/build/jing.jar<br>
> org.whattf.syntax.Driver<br>
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError<br>
> at<br>
> org.whattf.datatype.Html5DatatypeLibrary.createDatatype(Html5DatatypeLibrary.java:134)<br>
> at<br>
> org.whattf.datatype.Html5DatatypeLibrary.createDatatypeBuilder(Html5DatatypeLibrary.java:52)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.impl.SchemaBuilderImpl.makeDataPatternBuilder(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.parse.compact.CompactSyntax.DataExpr(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.parse.compact.CompactSyntax.PrimaryExpr(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.parse.compact.CompactSyntax.AnnotatedPrimaryExpr(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.parse.compact.CompactSyntax.UnaryExpr(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.parse.compact.CompactSyntax.Expr(Unknown Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.parse.compact.CompactSyntax.Define(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.parse.compact.CompactSyntax.Definition(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.parse.compact.CompactSyntax.GrammarComponent(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.parse.compact.CompactSyntax.GrammarBody(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.parse.compact.CompactSyntax.IncludedGrammar(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.parse.compact.CompactSyntax.parseInclude(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.parse.compact.CompactParseable.parseAsInclude(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.impl.SchemaBuilderImpl$IncludeImpl.endInclude(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.parse.compact.CompactSyntax.Include(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.parse.compact.CompactSyntax.GrammarComponent(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.parse.compact.CompactSyntax.GrammarBody(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.parse.compact.CompactSyntax.TopLevelGrammar(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.parse.compact.CompactSyntax.Input(Unknown Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.parse.compact.CompactSyntax.parse(Unknown Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.parse.compact.CompactParseable.parse(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at com.thaiopensource.relaxng.impl.SchemaBuilderImpl.parse(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.relaxng.impl.SchemaReaderImpl.createSchema(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at<br>
> com.thaiopensource.validate.AbstractSchemaReader.createSchema(Unknown<br>
> Source)<br>
> at org.whattf.syntax.Driver.schemaByFilename(Driver.java:122)<br>
> at org.whattf.syntax.Driver.checkDirectory(Driver.java:202)<br>
> at org.whattf.syntax.Driver.check(Driver.java:264)<br>
> at org.whattf.syntax.Driver.main(Driver.java:296)<br>
> Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: java.net.ConnectException:<br>
> Connection timed out<br>
> at org.whattf.datatype.Charset.<clinit>(Charset.java:50)<br>
> ... 30 more<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 29 March 2012 16:51, Michael[tm] Smith <<a href="mailto:mike@w3.org" target="_blank">mike@w3.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Rancid Iodine <<a href="mailto:rancid.iodine@gmail.com" target="_blank">rancid.iodine@gmail.com</a>>, 2012-03-29 16:44 +0100:<br>
> ><br>
> > > Even so, the java (post- "BUILD SUCCESSFUL") compilation part of the<br>
> > build<br>
> > > procedure would still have the problem getting through our firewall/proxy<br>
> > > which I mentioned before, would it not?<br>
> ><br>
> > You should not have that problem if you run the build script with the<br>
> > "--local" option.<br>
> ><br>
> > --Mike<br>
> ><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
--<br>
Michael[tm] Smith <a href="http://people.w3.org/mike/+" target="_blank">http://people.w3.org/mike/+</a><br>
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