[whatwg] Small consistency issue with HTML5 nav element examples

Tue Aug 2 15:58:21 PDT 2011

On Wed, 4 May 2011, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote:
> On 5/4/11, Ian Hickson <ian at hixie.ch> wrote:
> >> IMO browsers should implement <link>. <link> should be implementable
> >> cross-browser in CSS.
> >
> > Unfortunately, what we want and what we get don't always match. :-)
>
> On a more serious note, implementing <link> can't be that hard.

It's not a matter of it being hard. Some browsers have even implemented it 
and then dropped support.

> I'll probably patch my UA myself when I get the graphics layer working 
> on my system (or just use links2). But I'm slowly coming to the 
> conclusion that <a> should be used for creating hyperlinks that seem to 
> belong to head, in a tree of html>body>aside>a, for compatibility with 
> mainstream UAs.

That seems fine to me.

> >> My actual concern regard navigation links not forming a part of the 
> >> linear body of the document, but still being in <body>. Navigation 
> >> links will most likely be rendered "out of band," potentially only on 
> >> demand and paged/scrolled seperately from the body, or at the end of 
> >> the document in one dimensional renderings (such as audio and text 
> >> streams). They might even be triggered without being rendered at all, 
> >> such as by scrolling out of range of the current document.
> >
> > It seems most authors desire far more control over their navigation 
> > links. On many pages, it's almost as if the navigation links are more 
> > important to the authors than the content, at least when you look at 
> > the amount of effort put into them...
>
> Sadly, the things authors desire may conflict with the things users 
> desire. I also desire control over navigation links (among many other 
> things). From authors, I desire only content.

Unfortunately, as I said above... what we want and what we get don't 
always match. There's not much we can do here to push authors further.

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