Hello,<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/14/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Charles Iliya Krempeaux</b> <<a href="mailto:supercanadian@gmail.com">supercanadian@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hello,<br><br><div><span class="q"><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/14/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Charles Iliya Krempeaux</b> <<a href="mailto:supercanadian@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
supercanadian@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hello,<br><br><div><span><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/1/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Charles Iliya Krempeaux</b> <<a href="mailto:supercanadian@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
supercanadian@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hello Christoph,<br><br><div><span><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/1/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Christoph Päper</b> <<a href="mailto:christoph.paeper@crissov.de" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
christoph.paeper@crissov.de</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
*Henri Sivonen*, 2006-10-29:<br><br>>> <a href="http://blog.fawny.org/2006/10/28/tbl-html/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://blog.fawny.org/2006/10/28/tbl-html/</a><br>>
<br>>> * HTML has <span name="st">samp</span>, var, and kbd. I use all of them and I am
<br>>> pretty much the only one who does.<br>><br>> FWIW, I think <<span name="st">samp</span>> and <kbd> don't deserve to be in HTML and I am<br>> not convinced that the use cases for <var> could not be satisfied
<br>> by <i>.<br><br>I consider<br><br> <a href="foo.xga"><<span name="st">samp</span>><img src="foo.qvga" alt="Foo"></<span name="st">
samp</span>></a></blockquote></span></div></blockquote></span><div><br>Thinking about it some more, something like the <q> element may be useful as well for marking thumbnails.<br><br>So, you might have something like this...
<br><br><a type="video/mpeg" href="<a href="http://example.com/video/123" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://example.com/video/123</a>"><br> <q cite="
<a href="http://example.com/video/123" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://example.com/video/123
</a>"><br> <img src="<a href="http://example.com/thumbnail/123" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://example.com/thumbnail/123</a>" /><br> </q><br>
</a><br><br>(Although you'd probably want to add a "quotes:none;" to that <q> element, since some browsers wrap a <q> with quotes.)
<br><br>One would know that the <img> is from the video because the URL in "cite" attribute (for the <q> element) matches the URL in the "href" attribute (of the <a> element.)</div></div>
</blockquote></span><div><br><br>Doing it this way (with the <q> element instead of the <samp> element) would also allow you to take the thumbnail outside of the link. So, for example...<br></div><span class="q">
<br><q cite="
<a href="http://example.com/video/123" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://example.com/video/123</a> "><br> <img src="<a href="http://example.com/thumbnail/123" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
http://example.com/thumbnail/123</a>" /><br></q><br></span><a type="video/mpeg" href="
<a href="http://example.com/video/123" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://example.com/video/123</a>">[download]</a><br></div><br>The "cite" attribute (of the <q> element) and the "href" attribute (for the <a> element) could still be matched up to find thumbnail, in this configuration too.
</blockquote></div><br>(Sorry for replying to my own e-mail message again....)<br><br>If we still had the "urn" attribute on the <a> element, we could use it to specify alternatives of the same video.<br><br>
So, for example...<br><br><q cite="<a href="http://example.com/video/123/mpeg">http://example.com/video/123/mpeg</a>"><br> <img src="<a href="http://example.com/thumbnail/123">http://example.com/thumbnail/123
</a>" /><br></q><br><a urn="urn:uuid:0a8d2f83-d5d2-44e7-bde9-319aaadc219c" type="video/mpeg" href="<a href="http://example.com/video/123/mpeg">http://example.com/video/123/mpeg</a>
">[MPEG]</a><br><a urn="urn:uuid:0a8d2f83-d5d2-44e7-bde9-319aaadc219c"
type="video/quicktime"
href="<a href="http://example.com/video/123/mov">http://example.com/video/123/mov</a>">[QuickTime]</a><br><br><br>Just to say it explicitly, the "cite" attribute matches only one of those links. (It could be any of them. It doesn't matter.)
<br><br>Alternatively, I think it would probably be semantically OK if the urn was even put in there -- in the "cite" attribute. As in...<br><br><q cite="urn:uuid:0a8d2f83-d5d2-44e7-bde9-319aaadc219c">
<br>
<img src="<a href="http://example.com/thumbnail/123">http://example.com/thumbnail/123</a>" /><br>
</q><br>
<a urn="urn:uuid:0a8d2f83-d5d2-44e7-bde9-319aaadc219c"
type="video/mpeg"
href="<a href="http://example.com/video/123/mpeg">http://example.com/video/123/mpeg</a>">[MPEG]</a><br>
<a urn="urn:uuid:0a8d2f83-d5d2-44e7-bde9-319aaadc219c"
type="video/quicktime"
href="<a href="http://example.com/video/123/mov">http://example.com/video/123/mov</a>">[QuickTime]</a><br>
<br>(That way you don't have to play favorites.)<br clear="all"><br><br>Any chance we can get the "urn" attribute on the <a> element back? :-)<br><br><br>(And note... for those that think that "urn:uuid:0a8d2f83-d5d2-44e7-bde9-319aaadc219c" looks ugly. You do NOT have to use URN's that look like that. Another example of a URN is: "urn:ietf:rfc:3023".)
<br><br>See ya<br><br>-- <br> Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.<br><br> charles @ <a href="http://reptile.ca">reptile.ca</a><br> supercanadian @ <a href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a><br><br> developer weblog:
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