<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Apr 28, 2007, at 7:37 AM, Smylers wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Spartanicus writes:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">As a user I detest new windows opening without having chosen to do</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">that myself.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>Me too, but...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Surely users always have the final say anyway?<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Yes, but...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Most of them don't know it. I hope this is changing, but part of my job the past 10 years has been leading workshops demonstrating aspects and uses of the web to people in non-IT professions, and very few of them know this stuff. The people on this list take it for granted that they can right-click and open in a new tab or window, but I don't believe that feature is used often. The people in my workshops just put up with whatever the website does. (It's painful and frustrating to me, yes.) I don't have any data to offer -- just anecdotes -- and I would assume that more younger people use those features of browsers, but still we can't assume that "users," broadly, are even aware they exist.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I don't know which side of the debate that puts me on. Just offering the observation.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV></DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>_____</DIV><DIV>David Walbert</DIV><DIV>LEARN NC, UNC-Chapel Hill</DIV><DIV><A href="mailto:dwalbert@learnnc.org">dwalbert@learnnc.org</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>