On 6/28/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Nicholas Shanks</b> <<a href="mailto:contact@nickshanks.com">contact@nickshanks.com</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style=""><div>For your future reference, Robert, the browsers I am familiar with and was referring to in my statement about image decoders are WebKit-based browsers, OmniWeb 4.5 (historically), Camino and iCab 3. I avoid FireFox and Opera due to their non-native interfaces and form controls.
<div>Given your statement I may be incorrect about Camino though.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br>You are.<br><br>If we're going to make sweeping statements about how browsers work, let's make sure we include IE, Firefox and Opera in our data.
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=""><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span class="q"><div>We use official Ogg Theora libraries.
<br></div></span><span class="q"><div>No-one's suggesting reimplementing codecs. We're talking about integrating existing codecs into the browser, and shipping them with the browser.<br></div></span></div></blockquote>
</div><div>This is only possible if the codec is free. I thought we were talking about the problem of adding non-free codecs (namely WMV and MPEG4) to free software, (possibly also involving reverse-engineering the codec).
</div></div></blockquote><div><br>No-one's suggesting that. As Maik points out, reverse engineering is a dead end. Shipping a binary codec with, say, Firefox is a theoretical possibility, but for many reasons it's very unlikely to happen.
<br></div></div><br clear="all">Rob<br>-- <br>"Two men owed money to a certain moneylender. One owed him five hundred denarii, and the other fifty. Neither of them had the money to pay him back, so he canceled the debts of both. Now which of them will love him more?" Simon replied, "I suppose the one who had the bigger debt canceled." "You have judged correctly," Jesus said. [Luke 7:41-43]