<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Krzysztof Żelechowski <<a href="mailto:giecrilj@stegny.2a.pl">giecrilj@stegny.2a.pl</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Dnia 28-03-2008, Pt o godzinie 09:12 -0500, Tab Atkins Jr. pisze:<br>
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> >And the original problem can be solved using CSS2;<br>
> >I only wanted to bring a similar example:<br>
> >HTML poorly supports interleaving unrelated markup streams.<br>
> Please, elaborate. The reason this is a problem is because it *can't*<br>
> be well-solved with CSS.<br>
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</div>How about <LI CLASS="DEL" >?<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"></div></blockquote><div>Conveys no semantics, unfortunately. Non-css browsers will have no way of knowing that this is a deleted item. That's the whole point of having a <del> element in the first place.<br>
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> On the other hand, mixing together lists and tables doesn't seem to<br>
> have any good semantic interpretation.<br>
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</div>How about bilingual lists that have to be aligned in two columns?<br>
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> The reason I objected to that example was because you'd pretty much<br>
> just be jacking the *display* of <ol> for your own purposes, without<br>
> regard to the semantics. If you just want something numbered without<br>
> giving it proper list semantics, hand-number it or use generated<br>
> content.<br>
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</div>On the other hand, once I have a list, I can put it into a table cell.<br>
Then I translate the list into the neighbouring cell<br>
and I realise that the translations do not align.<br>
According to your recipe,<br>
I have to convert the original list structure to something else,<br>
something that older browsers do not support well.<br>
I feel frustrated about that.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"></div></div></blockquote><div>Ah, so in *this* case you're actually hijacking the *table* display while ignoring semantics. You could just use a table to display it (I think the semantics would probably be okay). If you want the list semantics specifically, use a *single* list and wrap each translation in a container that you can then give a defined width so that they stack next to each other. That's just the first thing that came to mind.<br>
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