<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Garrett Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com">dhtmlkitchen@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. <<a href="mailto:jackalmage@gmail.com">jackalmage@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div><div class="Ih2E3d">> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Brenton Strine <<a href="mailto:Brenton.Strine@citrix.com">Brenton.Strine@citrix.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Andy Lyttle <<a href="mailto:whatwg@phroggy.com">whatwg@phroggy.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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</div><div class="Ih2E3d">> Of course, it's still not in any way semantic. The only difference between<br>
> "(optional)" being displayed near the input and being displayed *within* the<br>
> input is one of aesthetics. The meaning of the document isn't changed one<br>
> iota. This leans me even more toward a CSS solution. I'll just bite the<br>
> bullet and bring it up to the CSS WG.<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>Are you proposing that placeholder could be a positioned object, such<br>
as an image?</blockquote><div><br>Not entirely sure what you're suggesting here, but maybe? My suggestion was put forward up above - I would prefer if the placeholder text was replaced content. You set a CSS rule (haven't decided the best way to handle this yet) that suppresses the display of a label and instead uses the textual content of the label as a placeholder.<br>
<br>Using an image as a placeholder is interesting, though. I know that Google custom search does that sometimes. However, I'm fine with leaving that to Javascript for now, as image placeholders aren't an accessibility concern like the placeholder-instead-of-label issue is. As well, it's still a minority technique compared to text placeholders.<br>
<br>~TJ<br></div></div></div>