<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Eric Carlson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eric.carlson@apple.com">eric.carlson@apple.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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On Oct 15, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Ralph Giles wrote:<br>
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On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Sander van Zoest <<a href="mailto:sander@vanzoest.com" target="_blank">sander@vanzoest.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Following that logic, why add the attribute at all?<br>
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Well, I like the pixelaspect attribute because incorrect aspect ratios<br>
drive me up the wall. Because the video and its embedding page are<br>
often served from different locations, it's nice to have a way to fix<br>
it the doesn't require editing the video file.<br>
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I agree that incorrectly encoded videos are annoying, but I don't think we should have this attribute at all because I don't think it passes the "will it be commonly used" smell test.<br>
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I am also afraid that it will difficult to use correctly, since you frequently have to use clean aperture in conjunction with pixel aspect ratio to get the correct display size. For example (you probably know this, but for the benefit of others following the discussion) DV NTSC video is 720x480, has Rec.601 aspect ratio (10:11), and should be displayed at 640x480. Multiplying 720x480 by 10:11 doesn't give 640x480 however, you have to crop to clean aperture (704x480) first. We *definitely* don't want to expose CLASP.<br>
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I don't think it should be included in the first version of the spec.<font color="#888888"></font></blockquote><div><br>Certainly not. I forgot about the required crop. I am now even more convinced it doesn't belong in the spec. <br>
Let the container handle this detail.<br><br>-- Sander<br><br></div></div><br>
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