<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Apr 6, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Chris Double <<a href="mailto:chris.double@double.co.nz">chris.double@double.co.nz</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer<br></blockquote><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#006312"><br></font><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I doubt though we need another attribute on the element - the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">information is stored in the src URL, so should be retrieved from<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">there IMHO.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">In this case it is not stored in the src URL in a way the author of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the document can retrieve. An oggz-chopped file can be copied and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">served with a normal filename for example. The time is embedded in the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Ogg file. There is no way for the author to retrieve it. Hence the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">need for an attribute.<br></blockquote><br>Ah, yes, in this case it can only come from the file directly into a<br>DOM property. I see. I agree, there is a need for an explicit<br>attribute.<br><br></div></blockquote><div> A media file with a non-zero initial time stamp is not new to oggz-chopped files (eg. an MPEG stream initial PTS can have any value, SMPTE time-codes do not necessarily start at zero, etc) , but I disagree that we need a new attribute to handle it. </div><div><br></div><div> Media time values are expressed in normal play time (NPT), the absolute position relative to the beginning of the presentation. It is the responsibility of the UA to map time zero of the element to the starting time of the media resource, whatever it may be. </div><div><br></div><div>eric</div><div><br></div></div></body></html>