<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 10:30 AM, David Gerard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dgerard@gmail.com">dgerard@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
2009/6/7 <<a href="mailto:jjcogliati-whatwg@yahoo.com">jjcogliati-whatwg@yahoo.com</a>>:<br>
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> There are concerns or issues with all of these:<br>
> a) a number of large companies are concerned about the possible<br>
> unintended entanglements of the open-source codecs; a 'deep pockets'<br>
> company deploying them may be subject to risk here. Google and other companies have announced plans to ship Ogg Vorbis and Theora or are shipping Ogg Vorbis and Theora, so this may not be considered a problem in the future.<br>
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</div>Indeed. There are no *credible* claims of submarine patent problems<br>
with the Ogg codecs that would not apply precisely as much to *any<br>
other codec whatsoever*.<br>
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In fact, there are less, because the Ogg codecs have in fact been<br>
thoroughly researched.<br>
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This claimed objection to Ogg is purest odious FUD, and should be<br>
described as such at every mention of it. It is not credible, it is a<br>
blatant and knowing lie.<br>
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- d.<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><div>Xiph made sure their codecs don't infringe on active patents before recommending it. And on top of it, Theora, which is descended from On2's VP3, has patents from VP3, but On2 made those patents available royalty free for any purpose, so there is NO concern there at all. Dirac is available from the BBC and is also patent-free. Vorbis is patent free as well. FLAC, Speex, the whole lot of them are extremely safe to use, legally. And certainly the Ogg container doesn't have patents against it...</div>