<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Jul 26, 2009, at 9:27 PM, Manu Sporny wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Maciej Stachowiak wrote:<br><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#006312"><br></font><blockquote type="cite">I would also caution that, by their nature, standards projects are not<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">quite the same thing as software projects. While the way HTML5 has been<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">run is much more in the spirit of open source than many past Web<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">standards, I'm not sure all the lessons can be applied blindly.<br></blockquote><br>I don't think that the lessons should be applied blindly... I think they<br>should be applied selectively and with great care. We don't want to<br>destabilize the way HTML5 is currently being developed - but we do want<br>to improve the process for giving feedback, get more people making<br>meaningful contributions, make the process of contributing more<br>harmonious and hopefully accelerate the speed at which features can be<br>developed. These are all direct or implied goals in the Restructuring<br>HTML5 proposal[1].<br></div></blockquote></div><br><div>The lesson I would learn from open source is that finding people willing to do useful work is much more important than tools or project organization. While good projects strive to refine their process, my experience is that people who start out by asking project-wide tools or process changes to enable their contribution rarely turn into valuable contributors. On the other hand, people who start out by making substantive contributions within the existing process often have excellent insights into how to improve the process and tools from there. That's not to say this is universal - just what my experience has been in ~14 years of open source development on various projects.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Maciej</div><div><br></div></body></html>