<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Jul 27, 2009, at 10:51 PM, David Levin wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>It sounds like most of the concerns are about the 2nd part of this proposal: allowing a background page to continue running after the visible page has been closed.</div><div><br></div><div>However, the first part sounds like it alone would be useful to web applications like GMail:</div> <div><br></div><div><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">The first, which should be<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; ">generally useful, is the ability to have a hidden HTML/JS page running<br> in the background that can access the DOM of visible windows. This<br>page should be accessible from windows that the user navigates to. We<br>call this background Javascript window a "shared context" or a<br>"background page". This will enable multiple instances of a web app<br> (e.g. tearoff windows in Gmail) to cleanly access the same user state<br>no matter which windows are open.</span></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>+ restrict things to the same security origin.</div><div><br></div><div> It sounds similar in concept to a share worker except that it runs in the main thread and is more concerned with dom manipulation/state while workers have typically been thought of as allowing background processing.</div> <div><br></div><div>It seems that the lifetime of this could be scoped, so that it dies when it isn't referenced (in a similar way to how shared worker lifetime is scoped).</div></blockquote></div><br><div>This idea actually sounds reasonably ok, and I think I once proposed something like this as an alternative to shared workers as the way for multiple app instances to share state and computation.</div><div><br></div><div>It's really the bit about invisibly continuing to run once all related web pages are closed that I would worry about the security issues.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Maciej</div><div><br></div></body></html>