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Brian,<br>
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>There are no switches that put the browser in HTML5 mode or
anything
like that; <br>
>the only switch is based on whether you have one of a few
given doctypes, which <br>
>only affects whether you're put in quirks mode or
in standards mode.
<br>
<br>
Why relegate a perfectly sound use case to a cul-de-sac? It would be
better to add to frames standards such that they're simpler to use.<br>
<br>
PB<br>
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-----<br>
<br>
Brian Campbell wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:3DF58D39-829D-4C15-9A86-6B75382E9287@dartmouth.edu"
type="cite">On Oct 9, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Peter Brawley wrote:
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">I'm arguing that framesets have been part of
HTML4, developers used them in good faith, and removing them from HTML5
unfairly & arbitrarily imposes a Hobson's choice of keeping
existing functionality while foregoing new HTML5 functionality, or
re-architecting existing functionality in order to use new HTML5
functionality.
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
No, there is not choice you have to make. Framesets will still work in
HTML5, they just won't allow you to validate. The page you cited,
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.artfulsoftware.com/infotree/mysqlquerytree.php"><http://www.artfulsoftware.com/infotree/mysqlquerytree.php></a>
already doesn't validate against HTML 4.01 (you are missing a doctype,
and missing a title element), so I'm not sure why validation should
suddenly matter. There are no features in HTML5 that are being withheld
from pages which don't conform to the spec. There are no switches that
put the browser in HTML5 mode or anything like that; the only switch is
based on whether you have one of a few given doctypes, which only
affects whether you're put in quirks mode or in standards mode.
<br>
<br>
-- Brian<br>
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