<div class="gmail_quote">2010/5/19 Silvia Pfeiffer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com">silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
2010/5/20 Sir Gallantmon ($B%K!<%k!&%4%s%Q(B) <<a href="mailto:ngompa13@gmail.com">ngompa13@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
<div class="im">> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 6:38 PM, David Gerard <<a href="mailto:dgerard@gmail.com">dgerard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> On 20 May 2010 00:34, Nils Dagsson Moskopp<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:nils-dagsson-moskopp@dieweltistgarnichtso.net">nils-dagsson-moskopp@dieweltistgarnichtso.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > James Salsman <<a href="mailto:jsalsman@talknicer.com">jsalsman@talknicer.com</a>> schrieb am Wed, 19 May 2010<br>
>> > 14:58:38 -0700:<br>
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>> >> > Container will be .webm, a modified version of Matroshka. Audio is<br>
>> >> > Ogg Vorbis.<br>
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>> > You mean Vorbis. </pedantic> ;)<br>
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>><br>
>> *cough*<br>
>><br>
>> x264 don't think much of VP8, they think it's just not ready:<br>
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>> <a href="http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=377" target="_blank">http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=377</a><br>
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>> OTOH, that may not end up mattering.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> - d.<br>
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> Given that the main reason against Theora was the fact that hardware devices<br>
> supported baseline profile H.264 (which looks terrible compared to the other<br>
> profiles), I think VP8 may be fine. VP8 already has hardware decoder chip<br>
> support, so that isn't an issue. Patents aren't an issue, since Google has<br>
> dealt with that.<br>
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</div>Apologies, but how has Google dealt with patents? They make the ones<br>
they bought from On2 available for free - which is exactly the same<br>
situation as for Theora. They don't indemnify anyone using WebM.<br>
<br>
However, I do appreciate that for any commercial entity having to<br>
chose between the patent risk on Theora and the one on WebM, it is an<br>
easy choice, because Google would join such a courtcase for WebM and<br>
their massive financial status just doesn't compare to Xiph's. ;-)<br>
<div class="im"><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Google's patent license states that anyone that attempts to sue over VP8 will automatically lose their patent license. That's a huge deterrent. AFAIR, the VC-1 codec didn't have that kind of clause, which caused the debacle that led to the VC-1 patent pool...</div>
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