<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Shane Fagan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shanepatrickfagan@ubuntu.com">shanepatrickfagan@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">> Internet Explorer 9 will not support VP8 unless the user manually<br>
> installs the codec. This puts it at the same level of support as<br>
> Safari has for Theora, as far as I know. So even if we assume every<br>
> user upgraded to the latest alphas of the browser they used, H.264 is<br>
> supported by about 65% of users' browsers, and VP8 by about 40%. Of<br>
> course, in reality, less than half of users' browsers support <video><br>
> at all right now, and given IE uptake rates, that's only going to<br>
> change slowly.<br>
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</div>For windows maybe there should be a .exe/.msi with the entire package of<br>
VP8+Theora+Vorbis or just VP8+Vorbis to make it easier to install but<br>
adoption isnt really our issue thats Microsoft's issue if WebM takes<br>
off. I dont foresee it being any harder than Adobe Flash to install for<br>
the regular user so websites could just direct users to the download if<br>
they dont have it already.<br>
<br>
Oh and IE is dropping in use according to the media over the past 3<br>
months ever since the browser selection screen came so its becoming less<br>
of an issue in time.<br>
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--fagan<br>
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</font></blockquote></div><br><div>The marketshare drop has been very small, about a percentage point a month. And Ian and other people in WHATWG made it our issue if Microsoft or Apple doesn't fully adopt WebM. He made it clear that unless all the browser vendors adopted a video format, it would never be specified in the spec as the baseline format to support.</div>
<div><br></div><div>We do need a baseline format in the spec. Supporting video will be difficult unless content providers can be certain that a single format will be supported across the board....</div>