[html5] table with fixed headers

Larry Martell larry.martell at gmail.com
Thu Jul 10 05:38:09 PDT 2014

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:39 AM, Martin Gainty <mgainty at hotmail.com> wrote:
> For FF diehards ( i cannot live without firebug)

I much prefer the debugger in Chrome.

> like myself ..sadly this
> wont work
> Im trying to convince larry that attributes which are increased/attenuated
> attributes have to be set by an uber-entity (e.g. Struts/JQuery or JSF/JSP)
> before the response is generated..

I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. When did you try
to convience me of anything?

> there is no other way if you want to use
> FF (which i do!)
> Many Thanks to Gary for the css bits on scrolling tbody..this is a most
> helpful contribution!
> Does anyone else have HTML/CSS/JS contribution for dynamically sized
> attributes (before larry dusts off the checkbook)?

I already did. The UltimateScrollingTable package I mentioned worked
perfectly, but it broke the sorttable.js package we use. I was trying
to integrate them, and was very close, but I was way behind schedule
on this task and had 25 others coming down the tracks like a freight
train. The author of UltimateScrollingTable was being very helpful,
answering my questions, but finally he said he'd just do it himself
for $100. I took him up on his offer, which I thought was a bargain as
I billed my client 10x that. It took him the better part of an entire
day - not a very good hourly rate in my book. But now the 2 packages
play very nicely together and I've moved on to the issue.

Thanks to all here who offered help and suggestions.

> Subject: Re: [html5] table with fixed headers
> From: gary.kk5st at gmail.com
> To: larry.martell at gmail.com
> CC: mgainty at hotmail.com; help at lists.whatwg.org
> My apologies if this post doesn't properly address the list; I'm on GMail
> and damed if I can find the 'reply to list' function.
> To my knowledge, NS6+ and Mozilla were the only browsers to properly support
> a scrolling tbody. For whatever reason, Firefox dropped this support
> sometime after 2006.
> Simply, the css was
> tbody {
>   overflow: auto;
>   height: xxx;
>   }
> The work-around for IE and Opera was fairly straight forward and still works
> for them as well as for Chrome and Firefox. See
> http://web.archive.org/web/20060421055400/http://garyblue.port5.com/webdev/scrollingtable.html
> for a working example, written in 2004 and modified in 2006 for
> non-compliant browsers, which now sorrily includes FF.
> I'd consider this far more robust than using js to modify behavior.
> cheers,
> gary
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Larry Martell <larry.martell at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Larry Martell <larry.martell at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Martin Gainty <mgainty at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 04:11:37 -0700
>>>> From: webmaster at tsmchughs.com
>>>> To: help at lists.whatwg.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [html5] table with fixed headers
>>>> On 7/4/14, 1:42 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
>>>> > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Brian Tremblay wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> the code posted on jsfiddle *does* have it:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> <td aligh=right>BAZ</td>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Regardless of who wrote that code, it is incorrect.
>>>> >
>>>> > I wrote it. I'm sorry. One typo pasted 15 times. I've fixed it:
>>>> > http://jsfiddle.net/NyGbt/
>>>> No, you didn't:
>>>> <td aligh=right>FOO</td>
>>>> But don't fix it on my account. I can't guarantee a solution.
>>>> --
>>>> Brian Tremblay
>>> MG>perhaps the time has come for Larry to open up his checkbook and pay
>>> for
>>> a correct solution?
>> That has crossed my mind. I am close to getting it working with this:
>> http://nevcal.com/eclectic/UltimateScrollingTable.html
>> But I would much prefer a pure CSS solution. How much would you want
>> to get for that?
> Just to close out this thread, I ended up using
> http://nevcal.com/eclectic/UltimateScrollingTable.html

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