[imps] ES4 implementation process, teams, and meetings

[Brendan Eich]

On Feb 21, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Ian Hickson wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Brendan Eich wrote:
>>>
>>> In contrast, with CSS, Web API or HTML WG specifications, I can  
>>> point
>>> engineers to a spec that is more or less accurate for a given  
>>> feature
>>> and they only have to ask questions about the few missing details.
>>
>> And then Hixie goes and rewrites it. I am calling b.s. here,  
>> Maciej. We
>> implemented offline web app support early in Firefox 3, based on such
>> WHAT-WG (ok, not HTML WG at the time) specs. They changed a great  
>> deal
>> later.
>
> In all fairness, they changed in response to feedback from the Mozilla
> implementors. To paraphrase you, if the spec didn't change, you  
> would be a
> passive observer of a standardization process that was all but done.

Please notice that I never said they changed for the worse, or that  
it was bad that they changed. I simply pointed to what actually  
happened refuting Maciej's generalization and supporting the draft- 
spec/implement/re-spec cycle I endorsed.

> That's not reality, and it arguably is not what you should want --  
> Mozilla
> people are and hopefully will remain valued peers in the remaining  
> work on
> HTML5. If you want to be passive implementors of a finished spec, then
> wait a few years.

Throwing my words at me when I was not complaining about the lack of  
specs that precede implementations and change only in their fine  
points is silly. Your complaint is with Maciej.

/be