Javascript for degradation [ Re: [whatwg] Suggested changes to Web Forms 2.0, 2004-07-01 working ]

Dean Edwards dean at
Mon Jul 19 12:51:50 PDT 2004

Matthew Raymond wrote:
> Jim Ley wrote:

>    I might remind you that nothing is stopping anyone from creating a 
> pure script solution, and both the pure script and HTC efforts may even 
> cooperate and reuse each other's code.


>>> In the message, Dean specifies the following as problems:
>>> 4) Memory leaks, which seems to be a problem with IE JScript in general.
>>> 5) Crashes, which he says are far more likely in the testing phase.
>> Yep, these sound pretty f'ing alarming for release quality 
>> web-applications ! 

5) HTCs don't randomly crash otherwise there would be no way i would 
advocate their use. crashes may occur when you are developing/testing 
HTCs. this can make them a pain to work with at times and means that you 
have to clear your cache periodically. but this is purely a development 

>>>   You've been given every opportunity to suggest markup that
>>> gracefully degrades as opposed to "last ditch degradation", 
>> I've done that, so far it's being rejected primarily because it is not
>> supportable by HTC's!

it was rejected because the <object> element does not reside in the DOM. 
furthermore, there would be no need to attach an HTC to an <object> as 
you can already define a custom interface for it. i still like the 
<object> idea though and there may be a way round the DOM problem...


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