[whatwg] Menus, fallback, and backwards compatibility: ideas wanted
ian at hixie.ch
Mon Dec 12 18:05:45 PST 2005
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005, Sander Tekelenburg wrote:
> Ah. Maybe I misunderstood your aim then. I got the impression there was
> also talk of "navigation menus" in this thread. Is the idea then that
> <nav> may contain <menu>, to define a menu to be for navigation? (I'll
> assume this for the example below.) Or did I completely misunderstand
> and is menu not meant to be used for navigation at all?
Well, the menu feature is not being _designed_ for navigation, but I'm
sure that authors would try to use it for navigation. There is a clear
demand on Web sites today for menu-based navigation.
> attributes: type, etc.
> type attribute values:
> - import
> Informs the user agent that the document's LINK elements are to be
> imported (as list items) into the menu. If the <menu> element is empty,
> user-agents may choose to not draw the menu at all but instead provide access
> to the LINK elements through a meta mechanism, such as a LINKs Toolbar for
> Example markup:
> <link rel="home" HREF="index.html" title="Home">
> <link rel="contents" HREF="toc.html" title="TOC">
> <link rel="help" HREF="help.html" title="Help">
> <link rel="search" HREF="search.html" title="Search">
> <link rel="address" HREF="address" title="Contact">
> <menu type="import">
This seems like a highly presentational idea -- that is, something that
would be better addressed using CSS or XBL, or a server-side transform
It also would not degrade very gracefully -- UAs that support neither
<link> nor <menu type="import"> would show nothing.
Here's an alternative proposal to do the same thing:
<menu type="commands" label="Navigation">
<a rel="home" href="index.html">Home</a>
<a rel="contents" href="toc.html">TOC</a>
<a rel="help" href="help.html">Help</a>
<a rel="search" href="search.html">Search</a>
<a rel="address" href="address">Contact</a>
The UA can still take the link types out and make the toolbar, if it wants
to do so, as the semantics are still there.
(Note to eager <menu> spec designers: no, I have no idea if that's what I
want it to look like.)
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