[whatwg] Menus, fallback, and backwards compatibility: ideas wanted

Ian Hickson ian at hixie.ch
Fri Dec 30 17:03:18 PST 2005

On Tue, 20 Dec 2005, Sander Tekelenburg wrote:
> Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean, but it seems to me that the 
> only way server-side includes can help with this in in the sense of 
> authors not having to define the same content twice. The user-agent will 
> still *receive* it twice, resulting in LINK capable browsers wasting 
> space by repeating the content in-body. I can't speak for Alexey, but 
> *that* is the repetition problem I am referring to.
> FWIW, my aim is to get at a place where "navigation menus" can be 
> authored in such a way that user-agents won't have to receive it twice 
> and can (if they want) display it outside of the canvas in a way that 
> works the same across sites, thus making navigation more recognisable 
> and therefore easier. If that can be achieved without LINK that's 
> perfectly fine with me. It's not LINK itself that I care about.

If we're trying to solve the problem of _sending_ the data twice, that is 
easily solvable, by using rel="" on <a> elements instead of <link> 
elements. If we're trying to solve the "problem" of displaying the link 
navigation twice (once in the page and once in the browser UI) then I'm 
not convinced that's a problem, or that we should be solving it.

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