[whatwg] <p> elements containing other block-level elements
Ian Hickson
ian at hixie.ch
Thu Jul 14 17:51:03 PDT 2005
On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, dolphinling wrote:
> >
> > A paragraph is typically a block of text with one or more sentences
> > that discuss a particular topic, as in typography, but can also be
> > used for more general thematic grouping. For instance, an address is
> > also a paragraph, as is a part of a form, a byline, or a stanza in a
> > poem.
>
> Without the content model change, that quote is good[1]. If the content
> model is changed, though, it would seem to give <p> two meanings: a
> standalone piece of text, and a grammatical paragraph. Only the first is
> what it should be; the latter is unnecessary.
It only has one meaning, IMHO, namely "thematic grouping". A grammatical
paragraph is one example of thematic grouping, but there are others, as
noted in the text quoted above and in the examples near it. <p> is
basically the simple element that is a level below <section>, IMHO.
I don't agree that <p> is or has ever been for marking up "a self-
contained block of text" or "a standalone piece of text". I don't see that
the text of a paragraph need be self-contained or standalone, and indeed,
there are examples where it doesn't contain any text at all:
<p>Bla bla bla</p>
<p><img src="diagram-reiterating-bla-bla-bla" alt=""></p>
Note that the image here has no alt text; its alt text would in fact be
exactly what the previous paragraph stated, the image being a redundant
reiteration.
Another example:
<p> <label> Comments: <textarea .../> </label> </p>
Certainly in this case the paragraph is not standalone.
Similarly, a byline isn't self-contained; it's meaningless without the
content it is "bylining" (as it were).
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