[whatwg] Legacy Browsers - emulating functionality in web forms specs in javascript

[Mark Stacey]

A lot of the items discussed in the working document describe
functionality that we have been building into our system using
javascript (well that's the whole point isn't it?), what I was wondering
is if anyone knows of a project to implement an emulation of this
functionality in current browsers using javascript?

Kind Regards,

Mark Stacey 
 
 
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Pattern Hint (Matthew Raymond)
   2. Re: Pattern Hint (Ian Hickson)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 18:05:13 -0400
From: Matthew Raymond <mattraymond at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [whatwg] Pattern Hint
To: Ian Hickson <ian at hixie.ch>
Cc: whatwg at whatwg.org
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Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Oct 2005, Matthew Raymond wrote:
>>   But the example text I have was for the tooltip, not for the 
>>pattern
>>hint. The pattern hint might be "Format: #### #### #### ####" or
"Enter 
>>in the full credit card number without any spaces." And this hint
would 
>>need to be visible while the user it typing, or else they have to stop

>>typing, take one hand completely off the keyboard and put it on the 
>>mouse, then hover the pointer over the control until the tooltip 
>>appears. Pattern hints, in legacy HTML at least, need to be text in
the 
>>web page and not tooltips.
> 
> You can put whatever you want in the content itself -- why would you 
> need
> an attribute for this? I don't understand. What you're describing is 
> already done today and works fine in existing browsers on all media.

   My argument isn't that |title| can't contain pattern hints. What I
object to is designing HTML5 so that |title| is the only thing that can
be used for pattern hints on legacy browsers.

   Note that I do not support the use of an attribute for pattern hints.
This clearly doesn't degrade gracefully. (See <altinput>.)


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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 22:15:02 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ian Hickson <ian at hixie.ch>
Subject: Re: [whatwg] Pattern Hint
To: Matthew Raymond <mattraymond at earthlink.net>
Cc: whatwg at whatwg.org
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On Sat, 8 Oct 2005, Matthew Raymond wrote:
> 
> My argument isn't that |title| can't contain pattern hints. What I
> object to is designing HTML5 so that |title| is the only thing that
can 
> be used for pattern hints on legacy browsers.

I don't understand why you think it is the only thing that can be used
for 
pattern hints (on any browser, legacy or otherwise).

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