[whatwg] Some likeness of DOM Session scope
ian at hixie.ch
Wed Sep 7 15:01:29 PDT 2005
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Olav Junker Kjær wrote:
> > Anyone have any concrete proposals? :-)
> bool, Date etc.)? This would be very easy to use, although it might be
> confusing for authors that you can save a string but not e.g. a
That's vaguely what I ended up doing, though I actually did allow Nodes as
well by special-casing them. (Haven't mentioned Arrays though, should I?)
> A web page with an URL should be "reentrant", e.g. if you bookmark it
> and visit it later, it should work. Pages which is dependent on info
> generated on other pages should either have that info encoded in the
> URL, or be accessed through a POST request. In the first case, the
> context is preserved, in the second the page can't (easily) be
> bookmarked and revisited, since browsers treats pages which is the
> result of a POST request differently, which avoids the problem of the
> missing context.
> Ordinary web sites are usually "stateless" in the sense that you can
> visit the pages in any order. Stateful transactions (like payment) are
> usually handled as a sequence of POST's.
> Web applications on the other hand are usually very stateful, but
> precisely because they are usually confined to a single page with a
> single URL, you dont get the "reentrance" problem. You can only bookmark
> the initial state, which is safe.
> If an app spans several pages with distinct URL's, but is stateful in
> such a way that pages are dependent on local state generated on earlier
> pages, it gets very fragile. We might start to see lots of "You seem to
> be visiting this page out of context" messages on Google :-)
This is already a problem, even with just cookies. I'm not sure how we can
solve it, though.
> Thats not to say that the proposal is a bad idea. I see some very strong
> use cases for it. For example, I might have written half a page of text
> in a CMS, but when i hit "save", I'm informed that the network
> connection is broken, and it wont get fixed before monday. In this case
> it would be very nice if the client side script could save data in a
> persistent local store - only accesible to this page, of course.
Exactly. This should now be possible with globalStorage.
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