[whatwg] Provding Better Tools (was: Re: trailing slash and atheism)

Henri Sivonen hsivonen at iki.fi
Mon Dec 4 13:23:16 PST 2006

On Dec 4, 2006, at 07:48, Mike Schinkel wrote:

> Henri Sivonen wrote:
>>> C, Java, Python, Perl, C# and Ruby attract developers who
>>> are capable of creating libraries. These languages already
>>> have library ecosystems in place.
> Forgive me for being so blunt, but that is an incredibly naïve view.

Quite possible.

Are you saying that you don't believe the ecosystems around those  
languages to be capable of producing HTML5 parser libraries or are  
you saying that programmers wouldn't use the libraries even if the  
ecosystems produced them?

> Do you know how hard it was to just get access to do an HTTP  
> request on an hosted ASP website?!?

Yeah, cheap PHP hosting tends to have problems as well.

> As for LAMP, my gut tells me that best case adoption would be 50%  
> because
> people already know string concatonation.

The above was neither about PHP nor about serializer libraries.

> The reasons are not the least because of host web hosts being  
> unwilling to
> install component software on their servers that is not required by
> standards or the vendors.

That's a problem with C-based libraries for dynamic languages--not as  
much pure-dynamic language implementations, whose status is  
comparable to the application code.

Henri Sivonen
hsivonen at iki.fi

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