jg307 at cam.ac.uk
Sat Feb 4 16:25:16 PST 2006
Jim Ley wrote:
> On 2/4/06, Brad Fults <bfults at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The reasons why XBL is not currently an acceptable substitute are
>> numerous, including its extremely limited implementation,
> So something with no implementation should be taken over something
> with an existing implementation, that's pretty odd.
Surely you can see that's a insane argument given the relative
complexity of implementing the _entire_xbl_spec_ vs. implementing a
single DOM method. Also I would be surprised if there weren't multiple
libraries. So you can't really call it unimplemented.
>> If other authors and designers do see use cases and have
>> concrete examples of where this function would add a great deal of
>> power and flexibility to their tool set, it is worth consideration and
> But a CSSSelector method has more power, not less, and adds little in
> implementation complexity surely?
Indeed. And DOM3 XPath (which is already implemented in one or more
browsers) does almost everything that a CSS selector based method can do
(possibly one can't do the equivalent of :hover although supporting
dynamic pseudo-classes may make the implementation more complex than
DOM3 - you'd have to ask some implementors). So the only reason to add a
getElementByCSSSelector method is because we feel that either a) DOM3
XPath is too hard to implement and getElementsByCSSSelector is much
easier or b) because the added authoring simplicity provided by using
widely understood CSS selectors is worth the substantial increase in
complexity that providing two methods to solve the same problem will bring.
I have no idea if either a) or b) is true.
I do however know that arguing "we shouldn't implement feature x because
more complex features y and z provide a superset of x's features" is
wrong if a cost benefit analysis shows that x is better "value for
complexity" than y or z. In this case you seem to be counting all the
costs of implementing getElementsByClassName and ignoring all the costs
of other, more general, proposals.
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