[whatwg] Presentational elements in Web Applications 1.0
jg307 at cam.ac.uk
Wed Jan 18 01:32:01 PST 2006
Eugene T.S. Wong wrote:
>> Less markup? How? Because you could write <big> rather than <div> and
>> a style deceleration?
> No, so you could write <CENTER> instead of <DIV CLASS="foo"> plus the
> modifications in your style sheet. That's hardly any savings, but it is
> cleaner code.
Substitute <big> for the more relevant <center> and my argument still
holds. The code may have superficially cleaner syntax but you're mixing
device-specific presentation with device-independent sematics, thereby
creating a situation which is more complex conceptually.
>> I certainly disagree with Ian that /all/ non-semantic markup should be
> Which Ian? I thought that I saw 2 "Ian"s.
>> If you use <center> or <big> to markup headings, text that is often
>> both large and centered, it prevents me from creating a useful
>> navigational outline of your page.
> I don't think that I once encouraged the use of <BIG> to markup
> headings. I'm opposed to it. I'm also opposed to using <CENTER> to
> markup headings. I'm very surprised that you said this. Maybe this is
> getting to personal. People obviously aren't listening.
You did, in fact, use <center> to markup a heading yourself, elsewhere
in the thread (though, from your next message perhaps you have changed
you mind about this now). I would also expect this paradigm to be pretty
common on that part of the real web that still clings to HTML3.2 (but
it's not like I have actual data or anything).
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