[whatwg] <progress> draft

Michael 'Ratt' Iannarelli mcratt at itctel.com
Sat Mar 25 05:27:18 PST 2006


Henri Sivonen wrote:
> It isn't redundant when they are not the same thing. They are not the 
> same thing here.
> Have you read mpt's earlier posts on the topic?
> http://listserver.dreamhost.com/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2004-September/002211.html 

Yes, I have read mpt's (and others') posts on this topic. I still feel 
the progress element is redundant.

<meter min="0" value="0.45" max="1"></meter> represents some value that 
is 45 percent of the whole. A graphical user agent is going to display a 
bar of some length with 45 percent of that bar highlighted in some 
fashion. It is otherwise meaningless without a label.

Disk Quota: <meter min="0" value="0.45" max="1"></meter>

Cloud Cover: <meter min="0" value="0.45" max="1"></meter>

Download Progress: <meter min="0" value="0.45" max="1"></meter>

The only difference between meter and progress is the potential for 
progress to be dynamic. The "how" progress will be dynamic has yet to be 
defined in the spec. If the method turns out to be as simple as setting 
an attribute task="someTask" then <meter task="someTask"> </meter> could 
direct the user agent to display a progress-style bar when someTask is 

One element to implement as opposed to two.

Just my thoughts,

Michael 'Ratt' Iannarelli

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