[whatwg] [HTML5] 3.10.9. The |abbr| element

Jonathan Worent jworent at yahoo.com
Thu Nov 2 08:11:48 PST 2006

I can see what everyones reasoning for not requiring the title (I change my vote :)

--- Lachlan Hunt <lachlan.hunt at lachy.id.au> wrote:

> James Graham wrote:
> > Lachlan Hunt wrote:
> > 
> >> Abbreviation expansions should only be supplied when they help the 
> >> reader to understand the content, not just because the word happens to 
> >> be an abbreviation.
> > 
> > I agree, unless using <abbr> with no title is useful to get the correct 
> > rendering of abbreviations in non-visual media.
> Using <abbr> without a title would be useful if it automatically 
> referred to a previous instance with the title attribute.
> e.g.
> You could mark up the first occurance as like this
>    <abbr title="As Far as I Know">AFAIK</abbr>
> Then, later in the document, you could use it without the title attribute
>    <abbr>AFAIK</abbr>
> and a UA could allow the user to discover the expansion.  This idea is 
> already somewhat supported in the current draft, but requires that it 
> references the defining term of a previously marked up <dfn>, rather 
> than just another occurrence of the same abbreviation.  IMHO, that part 
> of the spec needs fixing.

Would <dfn><abbr title="As Far as I Know">AFAIK</abbr></dfn> satisfy this?

> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#the-dfn
> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#the-abbr
> -- 
> Lachlan Hunt
> http://lachy.id.au/

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