[whatwg] The problems with namespaces in text/html
elharo at metalab.unc.edu
Sun Nov 5 04:02:27 PST 2006
William F Hammond wrote:
> This thread is specifically about documents on the web for
> _presentation_ by _browser-class_ user agents.
There is no such thing, and the sooner we realize that the better. There
are documents on the Web, which may be processed by many different
classes and types of agents for many different needs. These include
classic desktop browsers, cell phone browsers, text node browsers, web
spiders, search engines, intelligent agents, and much more.
The document format published on the Web should not prevent any of these
uses. That means it certainly must be well-renderable in a desktop
browser. However, we must not assume that is the only thing that will be
done with it.
One of the major original goals of XML *and* HTML *and* SGML was to
separate content from presentation. I am frankly shocked to see this
basic principle being so off-handedly thrown out the window. That's why
I'm having such a hard time believing what I'm hearing. Do people really
want to reverse the course the Web has been on for almost 20 years?
Especially now when diversity is increasing? In 1995 there really was
only one browser of great significance, and almost all Web browsing was
done in a desktop GUI. That's no longer true, and it's going to become
less true as time passes.
> Have you seen this comment from TimBL?
Most certainly. My response is here:
> Have you been involved in generating XHTML+MathML content that is
> presently on the web? If so, I'd like to know where so I can have
> a look.
Not heavily, but I've played with it. See, for example,
Firefox seems to handle it. Safari can't.
Elliotte Rusty Harold elharo at metalab.unc.edu
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