[whatwg] [WF2] <button> without value="" should perhaps use .innerText as value

Jonas Sicking jonas at sicking.cc
Mon Apr 23 14:31:03 PDT 2007

Simon Pieters wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 03:28:35 +0200, Kornel Lesinski <kornel at osiolki.net> 
> wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 02:10:07 +0100, Simon Pieters <zcorpan at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> We currently don't have interop with IE and other browsers with 
>>> regards to what to send to the server as the value of <button>.
>>> IE always sends .innerText as value.
>> IIRC it's innerHTML, but I can't verify it at the moment.
> Ah. Indeed, it is. Replace .innerText with .innerHTML in my proposal.

Ugh, this seems very messy. I think Kornel said it quite well when he 
said that there isn't likely many pages out there that rely on IEs 
behavior because you might as well use <input type=submit>.

I bet Hixie knows how many pages out there uses <button>, possibly even 
<button> without a type attribute?

>> Is there really a noticable number of sites that rely on IE's broken 
>> behaviour?
> Apparently, enough for the IE team to not change it for IE7, despite me 
> sending a bug report about it. (The bug was closed as "by design" IIRC.)

This is a poor test since Microsoft is very conservative with regards to 
chaining behavior. See recent threads on the HTML WG list.

 From what I understand they aren't going to change behavior unless it 
can be proven that no sites will break. I prefer to go the other way and 
say that we should do what makes a good spec unless it can be proven to 
break sites (as a general rule of thumb).

/ Jonas

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