[whatwg] Removal of Ogg is *preposterous*
maikmerten at gmail.com
Tue Dec 11 05:36:38 PST 2007
Ian Hickson schrieb:
> One would imagine that they would happily take new risks if the rewards
> were great (e.g. a better codec). Sadly the rewards in the case of Ogg
> Theora are low -- there isn't much content using Theora, and Theora isn't
> technically an especially compelling codec compared to other contemporary
> codecs like, say, H.264.
If keeping the web free of IP licensing horrors and being interoperable
with as many players as possible (commercial and non-commercial
entities, open source or not, free software or not) isn't much of a
reason things are looking cheerless for the web indeed.
I don't exactly see why the web should embrace non-free standards just
because the big players made the "mistake" of licensing
definitely-encumbered formats and are unwilling to "take further risks".
(I am aware this is a pretty hard wording and that things aren't quite
The old wording was a SHOULD requirement. No MUST. If the big players
don't want to take the perceived risk (their decision) they'd still be
100% within the spec. Thus I fail to see why there was need for action.
> One way to get a company like Apple to want to take the risk of
> implementing Theora would be to cause there to be a large pool of existing
> Theora content out there. Obviously, this presents a bootstrapping problem
> (aka a "chicken and egg" problem).
In a world where content is served on a per-user basis (streaming, DRM
encrypted media files) I don't think this is much of an argument. HTML5
is a future standard which will serve future content.
> I think the current wording in the spec is actually biased towards the
> small players more than the big ones, but if you think it's the other way
> around then I probably have struck the right balance.
I was specifically thinking of the "additional submarine patent risk for
large companies" part. Nobody wants to get struck by a submarine, so
either this requirement should be extended to all sort of entities or
dropped completely (as its hard by definition to make an informed
statement about submarine patents).
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