[whatwg] Removal of Ogg is *preposterous*
singer at apple.com
Tue Dec 11 17:31:40 PST 2007
At 20:21 -0500 11/12/07, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) wrote:
>El Mar 11 Dic 2007, Dave Singer escribió:
>> At 13:09 -0500 11/12/07, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) wrote:
>> >Fact: Vorbis is the *only* codec whose patent status has been widely
>> >researched, nearly to exhaustion.
>> You are clearly completely unaware of the extensive analysis done of
>> other codecs, including those that are licensed.
>And all those other analyses have yielded us this stalemate?
I am not yet ready to say we are at a stalemate
here; I simply believe that it is desirable to
get everyone (including Nokia and Microsoft as
well as Apple) on board. That's in all our
interests, and I continue to work to that end.
>That is a testament to the value of standards. No one ever said you didn't
>make standards. I claimed you made *proprietary* standards.
That is an oxymoron. Ogg is NOT a standard; it
is an open-source effort. H.264 (for example) is
NOT proprietary, but a multi-vendor-developed
international standard. But you knew this;
you're just trying to use emotional terms.
>only the big boys get to play and the rest get to pay. But in all fairness,
>I should bring up that you also made Zeroconf possible, and that's awesome.
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