[whatwg] clientWidth and innerWidth

Anne van Kesteren annevk at opera.com
Wed Dec 19 14:21:33 PST 2007

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:04:09 +0100, ddailey <ddailey at zoominternet.net>  
> I was revisiting some old scripts I had written for determining the size  
> of the browser window (or things inside it) -- using clientWidth for IE  
> and innerWidth for Netscape / other. Like many scripts written for the  
> good old days, measuring seems to have changed as well.
> Mark Wilton-Jones provides this rather frightening analysis  
> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/tutorials/javascript/browserwindow of the  
> behavior of Opera, IE, and FF (various versions of each) in and out of  
> quirks mode. A quick text scan of the "editor's draft" of HTML5 at  
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/ reveals no mention of either  
> clientWidth or innerWidth, so I'm wondering where this might be handled  
> if not in HTML itself?
> Apologies if this has been discussed ad nauseum before; I may have been  
> napping.

The CSS WG is working on this:


Discussion "should" take place on www-style at w3.org. The draft will be  
published as a W3C First Public Working Draft soonish, though this may be  
after new year given the holidays and such.

Anne van Kesteren

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