[whatwg] The issue of interoperability of the <video> element

Dave Singer singer at apple.com
Mon Jun 25 02:19:05 PDT 2007


At 10:10  +0100 25/06/07, Gervase Markham wrote:
>Dave Singer wrote:
>>What is more, no-one with deep pockets has yet used the Ogg codecs 
>>seriously, and therefore there is no "honey pot" to attract the 
>>submarines (hm, do submarines like honey?).  This is not the case 
>>with H.264 and AAC, as we have made, um,  some money using them, 
>>among others.
>
>If you had been making this argument before November last year, 
>would you have included MP3 in that list of "technologies people had 
>been making money from but which had attracted no submarines"?

Yes, I think so.  We are talking about the balance of probabilities 
here, not certainty.

>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcatel-Lucent_v._Microsoft shows that 
>this sort of argument about "deep pockets" and "so far" shouldn't 
>give Apple much confidence. MP3 was used by a lot of people with 
>deep pockets for quite a while before the submarine surfaced.

This is an interesting case, but given that it's under appeal, I 
think it would be wrong for us to discuss it here, alas.
-- 
David Singer
Apple/QuickTime



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