[whatwg] Using the HTML5 DOCTYPE as a new quirksmode switch
mihai.sucan at gmail.com
Sun Mar 11 05:11:01 PDT 2007
Le Sun, 11 Mar 2007 02:45:18 +0200, Alexey Feldgendler
<alexey at feldgendler.ru> a écrit:
> Not necessarily. For a long time, Microsoft has been in a position where
> they benefit from the lack of interoperability with other browsers. They
> had no incentive to make their browser standards-compliant. Now times
> have changed, and even Microsoft, as far as I understand, is now willing
> to improve their standards compliance. So I don't think that the
> standards-mode story will repeat -- this happened before due to browser
> wars, where interoperability has been broken intentionally.
Yes I understand that, however I am skeptical about Microsoft Internet
Explorer. I do not really believe they stopped wanting to dominate the web
browsers market, and suddenly they'll just make a good web browser. They
will create lockins, traps, and other tricks, to lock beginners in a
Microsoftish World Wide Web.
Until further proof, I shall maintain my stance.
IE 7 is not such proof. It would have been a good start, in 2002-2003.
>> Instead of using this DOCTYPE switch, I was even thinking of
>> conditional comments, DOM document property, etc. Yet, other methods
>> only add complications. If Microsoft considers adding a new rendering
>> mode as a must, such that it will not break many sites, then this
>> DOCTYPE is an elegant solution. History will repeat itself, no matter
>> how elegant the solution might be.
> Conditonal comments and similar approaches solve another kind of
> problem: how to allow making pages which do the right thing in good
> browsers but still function in older browsers. OTOH, the DOCTYPE switch
> allows the browser to do the right thing for good pages without breaking
> the old pages.
Hence I consider the <!DOCTYPE html> a good and elegant solution for
switching to the "strict standards mode" (even if I do not support it). I
do not like the other proposals in this thread.
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