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Wed Apr 2 10:34:00 PDT 2008
On 2 Apr 2008, at 16:55, Robert J Crisler wrote:
> It will be very, very difficult to develop critical mass for content
> encoded in Theora (or Dirac), much less ubiquity. I'm not saying
> there's no point in trying. I applaud the effort, though I have
> misgivings about the W3C setting itself up as a video/audio
> standards organization when we already have the Motion Picture
> Experts Group.
I don't think anyone whatsoever is suggestion to create a new codec —
we'd gain nothing by doing so.
> But ... why not recommend that web developers encode in MPEG-4 AVC
> or Theora?
MPEG-4 has patent fees to be paid, making it impossible for Firefox or
Konqueror (for example) to comply to that.
Theora has unknown patent status, and big companies are unwilling to
implement it (as it has little pre-existing content, and it is no
better than what they already have) lest they get sued due to some
> At least that would give some direction out of the current morass.
> ISO/IEC standards, like AVC/h.264, are vastly preferable to single-
> vendor (non)standards from Adobe, MS and Real.
All the codecs that have publicly been looked at already have glaring
issues with actually getting them interoperably used. We need
something everyone is willing to implement. If people don't implement
what we say, what we say is irrelevant.
> Why should the W3C choose not create a better situation than the
> current one (which is a mess for developers and a mess for users),
> while continuing to work on the ideal?
There's a reason why the status quo is the status quo: different
people willing to implement different things. One standard cannot
force people to implement something they don't want to. We cannot just
create a better situation: people have to actually do what we say to
be in any better situation than we already are. One group can't
implement specifications with known patents, and the other is
unwilling to implement specifications with no known patents, due to
submarine patent risks.
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