[whatwg] The <li> element's feedback
Christoph Päper
christoph.paeper at crissov.de
Wed Apr 23 02:39:37 PDT 2008
Ian Hickson schrieb:
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008, Christoph P�per wrote:
>>
>> I think it has been shown, that the meta attribute |reverse| would not work in
>> HTML, it would have to be a "command" attribute, i.e. it doesn't describe the
>> ordering of the following list items, but their indended display. This would
>> make it presentational and thereby not suitable for HTML. It would belong into
>> CSS, but that isn't very good at reordering boxes.
>
> I don't really follow. What's wrong with how the spec works now?
Without rereading or much rethinking the thread, the current spec is
right in that |reversed| describes the actual order of |li|s -- which
is, what markup should do --, but this doesn't degrade well and it's not
incremental, because you need to know the number of |ol|'s children
(which you could hardcode with |start|) in advance to number the first
item. Therefore someone proposed a command-like |reverse| (no
participle) attribute that would keep the numbers, but reorder the |li|s
with them, which is backwards-compatible, but works just as bad for
incremental rendering (though in a different way) and is not very
markupish and -- if at all -- should be done on the styling level.
Logical markup order Presentational markup order
<ol><!--spec, compat--> <ol><!--messy-->
<li>First 1. First <li>Third 1. Third
<li>Second 2. Second <li>Second 2. Second
<li>Third 3. Third <li>First 3. First
</ol> </ol>
<ol reversed><!--messy--> <ol reversed><!--spec-->
<li>First 3. First <li>Third 3. Third
<li>Second 2. Second <li>Second 2. Second
<li>Third 1. Third <li>First 1. First
</ol> </ol>
<ol reverse><!--a proposal--> <ol reverse><!--messy-->
<li>First 3. Third <li>Third 3. First
<li>Second 2. Second <li>Second 2. Second
<li>Third 1. First <li>First 1. Third
</ol> </ol>
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