[whatwg] Feeedback on <dfn>, <abbr>, and other elements related to cross-references

Jon Gibbins (dotjay) dotjay at gmail.com
Wed Apr 23 14:24:04 PDT 2008

Nicholas Shanks wrote:
>>  On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
>>  >
>>  > Assistive technology is certainly a valid use case here.
>>  Why? It doesn't seem to be the case to me that people using ATs are any
>>  less able to work out what an abbreviation is than anyone else.
> I think the point is that written and spoken language are not the same.
> If I see "etc." written down, I read it as "et cetera" in my mind's
> voice, sometimes even as "blah blah blah"!
> This usage has nothing to do with disambiguation, and is only
> concerned with text-to-speech (even if that speech is unspoken). As
> such, these kinds of abbreviations should not be marked up IMO, but
> left to the synthesizer's lexicon.

How is this concerned with text to speech exactly? To my knowledge, the 
use of abbr elements has no bearing at all as to how an abbreviation is 
spoken by a screen reader. The main point is to provide the expanded 
form, and to all users.


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