[whatwg] Thoughts on HTML 5

Giovanni Campagna scampa.giovanni at gmail.com
Tue Dec 16 07:00:23 PST 2008


2008/12/16 Nils Dagsson Moskopp <
nils-dagsson-moskopp at dieweltistgarnichtso.net>

> Am Dienstag, den 16.12.2008, 15:38 +0100 schrieb Giovanni Campagna:
> > Browser assume that author knows XML because he's put an application/*
> > +xml mime type.
> > On the other hand, this assumption cannot be done for blogger, who
> > aren't expected to know XML / XML 1.1 / XHTML 1.0 / HTML5 specs
> > (they're not expected to know about what or w3c either)
> Then they shouldn't write XHTML in the first place ... there *are* some
> good autoformatters which handle stuff for you (think: newline -> <br/>,
> two newlines -> <p>aragraph). Also, WYSIWYG editors should *not* gave
> you the oppontuniy to mess up your code.

In a forum you usually write BBCode (or similar), that is server-side parsed
with the same hacks as the HTML5 parser, while in other context it is
definitely more powerful to write directly HTML
Secondly, this:
<p>Click on my icon <a href=somewhere.html><img width=88 height=15
src=myicon.png></p>
is valid HTML although not valid XHTML. Do you mean this with "messing up
your code"?

>
> > > Could not save you post, invalid XML markup (Mismatched end tag,
> > expecting <img>, found </p>)
> > > See W3C XML1.1 specification (link to  XML spec) for further
> > information about this.
> > Or just "Not well-formed (attribute values must be encoded in double
> > quotes)"
> The current error messages are crap, that is totally right. They could
> certainly be more user-friendly.

Have you got any ideas?


> > You have no page, thus no way to edit!
> The admin interface should be always well-formed, having the offending
> portion in a <textarea> (or similar) for easy editing and an <iframe>
> for viewing.
>
In any case, it is not allowable for companies to have their site down
because of an user, even for just few minutes (if your lucky and find bug
immediately)
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