[whatwg] Some <video> questions

Oliver Hunt oliver at apple.com
Wed Jan 30 13:23:00 PST 2008

On 30/01/2008, at 12:54 PM, Charles wrote:

> Thanks for the conversation, folks!
> I was hoping that <video> would make Objecty <http://wiltgen.net/ 
> objecty/> redundant by making it easy for authors to embed video in  
> a very simple, normalized fashion across formats, browsers and  
> OSs.  Now I understand that <video> will be considered successful  
> without having fixed video embeddeding in general, which is fine.
What part of video does it not fix?  It defines a standard API for  
all implementers, with standard html-native markup.

Afaict you just want to be able to replace your use of <object> with  
<video> which is entirely pointless, the purpose of the video tag is  
to provide a standardised native html element, not another plugin  
mechanism to replace <object> -- by definition a plugin is both non- 
native and non-standard so has no relevance here.

Once the spec is complete you'll be able to use standard html to say  
here is a video, then use JS to bind custom controls (if you so  
desire), and everything will be wholesome and good.  If you want to  
use a plugin use <object> that's what <object> is for.


>> Microsoft provides a QuickTime component for Windows Media; would
>> that not be sufficient?
> Unfortunately not.  There's the installed base problem we've talked  
> about a lot in the thread, plus Flip4Mac WM doesn't support all  
> Windows Media features.  Really, it was always just a stop-gap  
> until Silverlight.
> -- Charles

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