[whatwg] Some <video> questions

[Charles]

(This is only partially on-topic, so apologies in advance.)

> I would like to have a look at a convincing example supporting
> your argument...

The best examples are no longer on the internet, since Apple long ago
stopped advancing or evangelizing this capability of QuickTime.

Two references I can point you do are Inside QuickTime: Interactive
Movies[1], and the book Interactive QuickTime: Authoring Wired Media[2].

> ...that rationalized your demand that the video element should
> support arbitrary virtual machines, including Adobe Flash.

Any multimedia-centric runtime conceived or actively advanced during in the
1990s supports the kind of functionality you're talking about, which is why
it doesn't make sense to put Flash into a different box.

That's all kind of besides the main point, which is that it's a missed
opportunity that <video> will only support one format across browsers/OSs.

I'm okay with that, since this problem can be solved outside of HTML 5.

-- Charles

[1]
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/QuickTime/IQ_InteractiveMovies/insi
deqt_intmov.pdf
[2]
http://www.amazon.com/Interactive-QuickTime-Authoring-Wired-Developer/dp/155
8607463

-----Original Message-----
From: Křištof Želechovski [mailto:giecrilj at stegny.2a.pl] 
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 4:59 AM
To: 'Charles'; 'WHAT working group'
Subject: RE: [whatwg] Some <video> questions

I replied as soon as I was able to review your example.  You argued that a
QuickTime movie can be used to make the host computer execute arbitrary
algorithms and that rationalized your demand that the video element should
support arbitrary virtual machines, including Adobe Flash.  I would like to
have a look at a convincing example supporting your argument; the one you
provided is not satisfactory because it is a mere redirection.

Yours sincerely
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: whatwg-bounces at lists.whatwg.org
[mailto:whatwg-bounces at lists.whatwg.org] On Behalf Of Charles
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 7:18 PM
To: 'WHAT working group'
Subject: Re: [whatwg] Some <video> questions

Not sure why you're responding to a 3-month-old email or what "Turing
complete" has to do with anything (the QuickTime runtime is also Turing
complete), but feel free to ping me off-list if you have questions.

-- Charles