[whatwg] Absent rev?

Tab Atkins Jr. jackalmage at gmail.com
Thu Nov 20 08:23:32 PST 2008


On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Martin McEvoy <martin at weborganics.co.uk>wrote:

> Hello
>
> Martin McEvoy wrote:
>
>> @rev = This relates to That,  or a rev="help" link indicates that the
>> current document is "help" for the resource indicated by the href.
>> @rel = That relates to This,  or  a  rel="help" link indicates that the
>> resource indicated by the href  is "help" for the current document.
>>
>>
>> Anyway I give up,  this discussion is getting a little too testy, If you,
>> And many others don't understand the point I am trying to make, what
>> progress is there to be made, Its all just wasted time (something I don't
>> have right now),  Im sure HTML5 will be great for Browser Vendors, for the
>> Humble author well we'll see.
>>
>> Thanks everyone for your...er...kind words
>>
>> see ya ;-)
>>
>>  I agree Almost ALL cases of rev="made" rel="author" can be used INSTEAD,
> I apologize over my denial of this fact, the truth is Most people do not use
> @rev=made the same way as I would :-[
>
> I had a look at over 150 (not a lot but this was done my manually looking
> at the source of the pages) examples of rev="made" almost 90% were links
> like this,
>
> <link rev="made" href="mailto:USER at HOST"/>
>
> the rest were like this
>
> <link rev="made" href="http://HOST.DOMAIN"/>
>
> or this:
>
> <a rev="made" href="http://HOST.DOMAIN">foo</a>
>
> and this
>
> <a rev="made" href="mailto:USER at HOST">foo</a>
>
> In all the cases I looked at rel="author" can be used Instead,
>
> Moral: Should have done my homework FIRST :-)
>
> Its still a shame to lose @rev though It has been around for a while
> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/draft-ietf-iiir-html-01.txt and despite its
> misuse its still a very handy attribute (used in the right way)
>

Glad to see you come around.  ^_^

I agree that @rev *can* be a useful attribute.  It's ultimately redundant,
but it serves to reduce the vocabulary we have to memorize.  Rather than
learning two different names for the same relationship in each direction, we
learn a single name and use @rel or @rev accordingly.  If @rel was a
commonly used attribute, this sort of thing would probably be of use to
authors and would justify @rev's existence.

In other words, evangelize the use of @rel and you might see @rev come back
in the future.  ^_^

~TJ
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