[whatwg] Review of the 3.16 section and the HTMLInputElement interface

Samuel Santos samaxes at gmail.com
Tue Nov 11 06:31:55 PST 2008


On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Samuel Santos <samaxes at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Ian Hickson <ian at hixie.ch> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Eduard Pascual wrote:
>> >
>> > I agree with Samuel in that this is an issue. In Catalunya, most often
>> > Spanish software is used (both OS and browsers), because a lot of the
>> > software is not easily (or at all) available in Catalan (specially
>> > Microsoft software, such as Windows and IE, which ammount for a quite
>> > big fraction of web surfers). Seeing Spanish stuff in pages that are
>> > supposed to be in Catalan is quite annoying (especially when keeping in
>> > mind some historic factors).
>> >
>> > I can understand that there may be some security concerns with this
>> > control; but I don't think changing the "Browse" caption poses any
>> > threat. But if there is so much paranoia on this, browsers could be
>> > allowed (or even required) to ask for confirmation when picking a file
>> > if the caption has been changed (something like "Are you sure you would
>> > like to submit C:\example.txt to example.com?" should be enough, and
>> > users would easily see such question as coming from the UA rather than
>> > from the webpage).
>>
>> It has been shown that prompts are ignored by users, so that wouldn't
>> really solve the problem.
>>
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>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Samuel Santos wrote:
>> >
>> > If changing the button text can be a security issue (e.g. induce the
>> > user to an action that he's not aware of), we can come up with some
>> > solutions.
>> >
>> > What about allowing the Author to change the control's locale? By doing
>> > so, the UA can then render the button with the same locale as the
>> > application without compromising the security.
>>
>> It seems like browsers should do this already based on the lang=""
>> attribute. I recommend asking browser vendors to implement this.
>
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> @lang will definitively fix the problem if browsers are willing to
> implement it.
>

Ian, can I ask you to please check this with browser vendors?


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>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Eduard Pascual wrote:
>> >
>> > I was going to suggest this, but I don't think it's really doable:
>> > browsers would need to include all the translations of that caption in
>> > all their versions. In the specific case of IE, considering that
>> > Microsoft tends to license only single-language versions of its products
>> > (if you want it in two languages, you need to pay twice), I'm afraid
>> > this would be an issue (despite the fact that IE is actually distributed
>> > for free, it would still mess with their "packaging").
>>
>> It's true that this may not be something browsers want to implement.
>>
>> --
>> Ian Hickson               U+1047E                )\._.,--....,'``.    fL
>> http://ln.hixie.ch/       U+263A                /,   _.. \   _\  ;`._ ,.
>> Things that are impossible just take longer.   `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
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> Samuel Santos
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