[whatwg] introduction, plus some form input ideas

Kristof Zelechovski giecrilj at stegny.2a.pl
Wed Oct 22 09:46:13 PDT 2008

I do not find the other code significantly simpler than the present one.
I would rather say:

	Sub printOption(value, selected, text)
	Dim Opt
	Set Opt = Option. Create(value, text)
	Opt. selected = (value = selected)
	Response.Write Opt.outerHTML
	End Sub

	For each rec in recset
	printOption rec.value, selectedValue, rec. text

Problem solved.

-----Original Message-----
From: whatwg-bounces at lists.whatwg.org
[mailto:whatwg-bounces at lists.whatwg.org] On Behalf Of Jonas Sicking
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:19 PM
To: Ian Hickson
Cc: whatwg at lists.whatwg.org; Ric Hardacre
Subject: Re: [whatwg] introduction, plus some form input ideas

Ian Hickson wrote:
>> 2. select tag:
>>    selectedindex="[num]"
>> implicitly set the selected index, instead of having to parse all the
>> tags and insert a "selected" string, much easier to bind to server side
>> an invalid value (such as -1 or greater than the number of option tags)
>> mean none are selected. this would obviously not apply to
> You can do this from script at the moment (setting the .selectedIndex 
> attribute). I haven't added it to the markup side yet. It doesn't seem to 
> add much other than convenience (you can already do this with selected="",

> as you noted). Adding features has a high cost, even for simple features 
> like this, and I'm not sure we can really justify the cost here.

I actually think that something like this could be of high value to authors.

I've found myself many many times writing serverside code like this:

selected_value = get_default_selected();
list_of_records = get_records_from_db();
print("<select name='hi'>");
foreach (record in list_of_records) {
   print("<option ");
   if (record.value == selected_value) {
     print("selected ");
   print("value='" + record.value + "'>" + record.text +

while this works it is quite a pain. It would be much better if you 
could stick selected value in one place and then just dump all values. 
Such as:

list_of_records = get_records_from_db();
print("<select name='hi' value='" + get_default_selected() + "'>");
foreach (record in list_of_records) {
   print("<option value='" + record.value + "'>" + record.text +

So I think it works quite well as a convenience feature.

We would have to define things like does the value content attribute 
change value when a new option is selected, or does it just act as a 
default value. In firefox different controls behave differently in this 
regard, I haven't yet checked what the html5 spec does.

/ Jonas

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