[whatwg] [html5] Semantic elements and spec complexity

Simon Pieters simonp at opera.com
Tue Feb 10 01:27:36 PST 2009

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:02:36 +0100, Ian Hickson <ian at hixie.ch> wrote:

>> > , default <header>, <footer>, and <navigation> to having a slightly
>> > darker background than their parent element
>> It seems like there should be something more obvious that could be done
>> for these elements. For <header> and <footer> a border below and above,
>> respectivly, would seem obvious.
> That would be simple enough, I guess; what do other people think?

I think many authors hate default styles so much that they either prefer to just use <div> or they start their style sheet with resetting the defaults.

Since <header> is intended to be useful to make subheaders not appear in the ToC, the move from




shouldn't, IMHO, result in ugly borders that everyone has to nuke (compare with <img border=0>).

Simon Pieters
Opera Software

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